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Old 08-24-2005, 01:25 PM
andyfox andyfox is offline
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Default \"Do You Have the Jack\"

Three of us in a pot at the end. (40-80). Button has been betting and the two of us have been calling all the way. I'm in the big blind and first to act. Board ends up:

J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet out and the 3rd man folds. Button takes a long time and finally asks, "You have the jack, Andy?"

I'm usually at a loss what to say or do here. This time I winked and said, "What to you think?"

How do you guys deal with something like this if you want him to call? Or to fold?

Thanks.
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Old 08-24-2005, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: \"Do You Have the Jack\"

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I was hoping this was going to be a post where you showed you had the J and he called and showed just a 7.
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Old 08-24-2005, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: \"Do You Have the Jack\"

just say no with a deadpan stare, or just say nothing.

or... i like this, answer his question with a question, but about something totally different. like, ask him if he likes strawberries.
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Old 08-24-2005, 01:36 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: \"Do You Have the Jack\"

if you want him to fold say nothing. just say nothing and look comfortable. or say what you said.

if you want him to call look confused for a second, then look at him then look at the board and say as if you just had an epiphany, "oh, a jack...well i guess i could" kinda goofily and that should be enough to get him to call. unfortunately, the call ones you can only use one time ... and sometimes you have to say SOMETHING when you dont have it and want him to fold b/c they will quickly figure out if you say nothing they should call and if you are talking they should fold.

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Old 08-24-2005, 03:02 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default Re: \"Do You Have the Jack\"

"if you want him to fold say nothing."

good lord you guys need a lesson in tells. still and quiet spells bluff. goofy and happy and talking means the nuts.
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: \"Do You Have the Jack\"

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"if you want him to fold say nothing."

good lord you guys need a lesson in tells. still and quiet spells bluff. goofy and happy and talking means the nuts.

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For a lot of people its just the opposite.
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:07 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default Re: \"Do You Have the Jack\"

"For a lot of people its just the opposite."

not in my experience.
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: \"Do You Have the Jack\"

What does it mean when a guy bets into you on the river and while you are contemplating a call, he holds his cards out like he is getting ready to muck them?
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:55 PM
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What does it mean when a guy bets into you on the river and while you are contemplating a call, he holds his cards out like he is getting ready to muck them?

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it means he's a dick.
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:16 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default Re: \"Do You Have the Jack\"

"What does it mean when a guy bets into you on the river and while you are contemplating a call, he holds his cards out like he is getting ready to muck them?"

he's not getting ready to muck them, he's getting ready to show them down. it means he has the nuts. any time a typical non-reverse tell player (98% of players) touches their cards after they bet the river it means they have a hand they think is the winner and they are expecting you to call.
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