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Old 06-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Set of 8\'s .

This was the second hand of the tournament.
How do you like my line?

Thanks,
Jonathan
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB (t800)
UTG (t745)
UTG+1 (t745)
MP1 (t690)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
<font color="#C00000">CO (t1845)</font>
Button (t790)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t785)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t87.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t65</font>, MP2 calls t65, CO calls t65, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t325</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t260, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t520</font>, Hero raises t445 and is all in, UTG+1 folds, CO calls t185.

Turn: (t1572.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1572.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1572.50
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:45 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

I don't understand the question. You got the money in on the flop when you have a set. Why shouldn't anyone like that line?
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:48 PM
Wes ManTooth Wes ManTooth is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

This has to be a $5sng. Everything is fine, everything got all in on the flop.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:55 PM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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This has to be a $5sng. Everything is fine, everything got all in on the flop.

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Why does it have to be a $5 sit and go?
Why can't it be a $10 or $20 or $200?
How would the play differ?

Suerte,
Jonathan
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

it was fine.

not a terribly interesting hand though.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:15 PM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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it was fine.


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I think it sucks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Lead the flop.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:31 PM
Nottom Nottom is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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it was fine.


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I think it sucks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Lead the flop.

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Agreed.
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Old 06-24-2005, 01:36 PM
mlagoo mlagoo is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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it was fine.


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I think it sucks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Lead the flop.

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Agreed.

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Sorry to resurrect this old thread.

Why is leading the flop better? There are 6 players, and it isn't a rag flop -- it is sure to be bet. It is also a dangerous board, so you don't want everyone coming along (although you don't really want to scare everyone off either).

With a check-raise, you can get out a couple of the lesser draws, and you've got a good chance of someone with a decent draw getting all their chips in against you, which you want in this situation since there are only three hands that beat you, and only one that would have limped preflop.

I guess I'm just asking what you are trying to get out of leading the flop.
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Old 06-23-2005, 06:59 AM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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it was fine.

not a terribly interesting hand though.

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On the contrary, I think it's a terribly interesting hand
for two reasons:

1. The flop is connected with overcards
2. Its still early...Level 1 or 2 I recall.

Another poster said he didnt understand the point of my
question. The whole point is this:

Do I want to play for all my chips with this hand, on this
flop, at this stage of the tourney?

Thanks,
Jonathan
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:06 AM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

You have a set. There is 3 possible hands that you lose to and only 2 that you're drawing to 1 out against.

Push it all in. Stop worrying about the levels. Levels only matter if you had a decent hand but not the greatest (i.e, AQ, Q8s, maybe QT)
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