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similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
Villian is 43/7/1 after 137h.
Raise flop continuation bet: 1/24 Call flop continuation bet: 13/24 Fold flop continuation bet: 10/24 In all situations, regardless of position, num opponents, etc, when confronted with a flop bet: Fold: 48% Raise: 7% PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls. Flop: (6.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Is it OK to fold this one? I can't imagine any situation other than him having a Q. What if I didn't have a read? |
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
you fit all those stats in your layout?
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
they will probably be in PA HUD. what a program. I have only just registered it and am feeling it out, but boy howdy it is useful.
As for the hand, if they have raised the flop so infrequently, you gotta be behind, the board is not draw heavy. AQ, KQ, 55, 44 are all possibly by a button cold call (although i would 3bet AQ KQ and would probably 3bet the pairs to isolate). I think a fold is okay, but I usually peel then check-fold. Could be why i am leaking money [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] I also played like a tool last night, so waffle, if you sat with me on stars, i apologise. |
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
Climber,
I fit them all on a pop-up. Peter, Me too. Don't worry, we blend in well with the natives. Best wishes, waffle |
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
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I think a fold is okay, but I usually peel then check-fold. [/ QUOTE ] I like this and usually play it this way. You have two outs to beat him, and occasionally they will bluff an OESD and check the turn. It's also good metagame not to have your fold to flop raise too high. Even donks figure that one out. |
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
All,
I think calling the flop raise and planning to fold to a turn bet has no merit. Let's fold it now or take it to showdown. We're throwing away 0.5 bbs almost all of the time. On occasion, we hit a J or the villian checks the turn, but not often enough to make up the investment IMO. I'm all for metagame but I'm not for throwing away ~0.4 BBs for a play that probably won't even be noticed. |
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
yeah i dont see what he's raising that you beat really, OESD is bit stupid HU and killing his own field.
fold. |
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
[ QUOTE ]
All, I think calling the flop raise and planning to fold to a turn bet has no merit. Let's fold it now or take it to showdown. We're throwing away 0.5 bbs almost all of the time. On occasion, we hit a J or the villian checks the turn, but not often enough to make up the investment IMO. I'm all for metagame but I'm not for throwing away ~0.4 BBs for a play that probably won't even be noticed. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this. |
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
i totally agree, i think about the metagame too much because of SSHE's little section on loose calls to prevent looking like we fold to much.
But i gotta stop doing it. So waffle, if you see me, now you know to take shots on the flop :P |
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Re: similiar to the \'paranoia\' post...
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I think calling the flop raise and planning to fold to a turn bet has no merit. [/ QUOTE ] What about asymmetric risk preference? Now that you know you're behind, don't you want to roll them bones? [ QUOTE ] I'm all for metagame but I'm not for throwing away ~0.4 BBs for a play that probably won't even be noticed. [/ QUOTE ] But the fold is metagame. It's not metagame setup, it's metagame payoff. The reason you spend money to establish a rep as a strong player who doesn't fold easily is so you can make folds. Metagame is like an account, you invest pennies in it by making plays that have a slight negative short-term EV in order to project a certain image. Occasionally you must profit from this image or those investments were wasted! Also, you have to look at this from your opponents' point of view. From their perspective it might look less like you made a tough laydown and more like you raised with junk. When I make a fold like this I do it with devious glee. /mc |
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