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Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
hand converter doesn't work for Absolute, so:
Dealt to Hero [K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] UTG - Checks UTG+1- Calls $0.50 MP1 - Calls $0.50 Hero - Calls $0.50 CO - Calls $0.50 Button - Calls $0.50 SB - Folds BB - Checks Connected high cards with suited possbilities, albeit small ones. I figure it's good to take one off. *** FLOP *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] BB - Checks UTG - Checks UTG+1 - Checks MP1 - Bets $0.50 Hero - Raises $1 to $1 CO - Calls $1 Button - Calls $1 BB - Calls $1 UTG - Folds UTG+1 - Folds MP1 - Calls $0.50 In retrospect, I think calling and going for overcalls is a better play. I like my wraparound draw as any 6, 9, T, J gives me half the pot. *** TURN *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] BB - Checks MP1 - Bets $1 Hero - Raises $2 to $2 CO - All-In $1.42 Button - Calls $2 BB - Raises $3 to $3 MP1 - Raises $3 to $4 Hero - Calls $2 Button - Calls $2 BB - Calls $1 After the hand, I calculated my exact outs if the flush is good to be 20, that's discounting the times the board pairs. That means I'll get half of this multiway pot 45% of the time. If the flush isn't good (which I feel is unlikely unless someone happens to have the K with their low and another spade), 13 cards give me the straight which means that about 30% of the time I'll get half the pot. I'm pretty much tied to the pot, and I raised for what I think to be value, good? *** RIVER *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] BB - Bets $1 MP1 - Calls $1 Hero - Calls $1 Button - Raises $2 to $2 BB - Calls $1 MP1 - Calls $1 Hero - Calls $1 The board pairs, gives me a weak flush, and instead of bailing, I decide to call only one to me. I played the river poorly I think. I probably should've folded to one of the two bets I called. Overall thoughts? |
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
Boolean,
This is a tough hand. If you want to see the flop with this hand (and I think it's ok to see the flop with this hand) you need to have the discipline to fold this flop even though it looks like a good flop...even though it isn't. You are playing for half the pot. Save your bets for times when you are playing for more than 1/2. If the low was still drawing, I'd have a different answer for you, but it's already made and you aren't getting any part of the low. So...you are drawing for half the pot. Don't do that. You are risking alot to win just a little. Dave |
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
PF is standard.
The flop is deceptive. You have a big straight draw, that's true. However, the board has three low cards. With 6 opponents a low is almost certainly already made. You're drawing at half the pot. I think you should fold it on the flop. On the river I think you should fold. You made the 2nd nut flush, but the board paired. A low is certainly out there, so you're going after half the pot at best. I think there's a very good chance your flush is also beat. All in all, I think folding on the flop is the best line. |
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
This isn't close. Please fold this flop. You're playing for half in a small pot, and at these levels, you are not lessening attendance enough with a raise on this board...just getting yourself deeper into a mess.
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
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This isn't close. Please fold this flop. [/ QUOTE ] I probably would have mucked this pre-flop. Going into a hand where your best hand is most likely a straight is a bad strategy. |
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
I think this call preflop is fine. It has scoop potential in terms of high hands. This and other four cards nine or higher hands are played strictly for high, and with the correct high flop you will scoop the pot. Obviously in this scenario, you muck this hand unless the straight is already made. No sense in drawing for half a pot.
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
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I think this call preflop is fine. [/ QUOTE ] Of course you do. You play 3-4-5-6. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
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[ QUOTE ] I think this call preflop is fine. [/ QUOTE ] Of course you do. You play 3-4-5-6. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] nh sir |
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
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Of course you do. You play 3-4-5-6. [/ QUOTE ] Niss - Clever reply! It inspired me to compare 3456 with 9TJK. Here are my (eight non-folding opponents) simulation results for 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] hand.....high.....low.....scoop.....total 9TJKs-.....478.....0.....710.....1188 3456s-.....304.....593.....345.....1242 You’re not playing either hand. Fine. Jeffrey is playing both hands. Fine. There's not just one style of play that works. I’m not going to mention any names but it’s interesting that some evidently would shun the 3456 hand while tending to embrace the 9TJK hand. Although it’s hard to exactly compare the totals because the 9TJK hand scoops more than the 3456 hand, as you can see, the total number of whole pot equivalents won are really rather close, with the 3456 hand actually having a slight edge over the 9TJK hand. Buzz |
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Re: Wraparound draw LO8 .5/1
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This isn't close. Please fold this flop. [/ QUOTE ] or come sit at our tables... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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