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JJ, bet turn, bet river??
Sry, no reads. Im not sure where i was here, then on the turn the A made me a bit scared, but he checked, and i bet, and i didnt get c/r, i think i should have bet the river, but im still not sure, what do you put villain on, and do you bet this turn/river?
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls. Flop: (12 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls. Turn: (10 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. River: (12 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. Final Pot: 12 BB |
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
Looks like he was on a busted spade draw.. but I'm not sure what he'd call with that you'd beat if you value bet.
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
I put him on another overpair. The only flush draw that makes sense with the preflop cap and no turn bet or raise is KQs. I like the river check, since the only losing hand I can see him calling with is TT.
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
Did you have a read? Without one I think you can assume you're either ahead of TT or behind AA/KK/QQ once he 3-bets the flop. I'm probably just calling down from there.
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
Pretty sure he has KK/QQ and is scared of a set or AK
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
I dont like the flop raise, his betting is screaming "QQ-KK-AA".
His turn action implies QQ/KK(Which he wont be folding, but he will raise AA). It is because of the above that i prefer: Call flop 3bet(Dont cap), Check/Call Turn, Check/Call river. Although as i put him on QQ/KK i dont even like C/C the turn or river. I just think your flop cap and turn bet stink. |
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
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Check/Call Turn, Check/Call river. [/ QUOTE ] I keep seeing you say this when in position heads up, and it makes no sense to me. OP: I think you played this perfectly. bet the turn for a free showdown -- this is the last bet you should put in UI. There is not sufficient value to bet the river. You need to bet the turn to charge the draws -- if you check behind the turn it makes villains river play incredibly easy, whereas if you bet the turn he is going to have a helluva time avoiding a FTOP mistake. |
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
if he checks, you check.
If he bets, you call. What you confused about? I don't see villan on a draw here raising and 3betting HU but hey. |
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
Other than being torn on flop cap, I play exactly the same; he goes limp on turn prolly w/KK/QQ maybe intending to call down (can't see Ax playing flop like that); largish pot and being behind more likely pf/flop-action hands I prefer c-c river hoping he was TT (or worse, JJ)...
Mike |
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Re: JJ, bet turn, bet river??
Looking back on this, i think this is a case of simple hand reading with lvl 1 thinking, what is he capping w/ preflop and 3 betting the flop with, only hands that make sense are 99+, i realize after the 3bet on the flop, i should calldown now, and maybe even fold the turn UI, i know that seems weaktight, but i think this is pretty straightfoward. Villain showed TT, the only hand i beat, MHIG, thanks all for helping me realize that i need lots of work in simple hand reading
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