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Sometimes Monsters Are REAL
How much action are you giving in each of these? Please back up your answers.
HAND 1 Villain is 13/8/2 over 250 hands. Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button calls. Turn: (9.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero... HAND 2 Villain is 21/1/0.5 over 150 hands. Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, BB folds. Turn: (5.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero... |
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Re: Sometimes Monsters Are REAL
in hand 1 it's 2-1 that you're looking at AJ vs 88 or JJ, and it's less likely that he'd 3-bet AJ preflop, and he has I think 8 outs if behind, and you have only 1, so it's a call. hand 2 you're looking at KK, QQ, KQ. since it's the 4th bet on the turn and this guy won't be check-raising you, I'd go ahead and cap it since you're going to see KQ slightly more often than KK/QQ
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Re: Sometimes Monsters Are REAL
Forgot to include another fairly important stat. MP3 in Hand 1 is 20/9 PF.
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Re: Sometimes Monsters Are REAL
Hand 1 you're looking at JJ and 88 as the only reasonable hands that beats you, and I'd say you're up against AJ or a badly played overpair much more often. I'm capping the turn and calling one raise on the river.
Hand 2 I like calling the 3bet and raising the river. I like this better than either capping and calling the river or capping and raising the river. |
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Re: Sometimes Monsters Are REAL
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Hand 2 I like calling the 3bet and raising the river. I like this better than either capping and calling the river or capping and raising the river. [/ QUOTE ] capping and calling the river 100% has to be better than both of those options. if this guy puts in another raise, he's got a bigger set. |
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Re: Sometimes Monsters Are REAL
also, this is a decent player who could/should fold that badly played overpair
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Re: Sometimes Monsters Are REAL
Keep in mind I dont play 20/40. Also neither hand is shorthanded...
In hand 1 I call the raise and bet call the river(assuming it isn't an A or K) Given the action preflop J8/J6 isn't a possibility, and 88 is very unlikely(13/8 players aren't 3 betting with 88). JJ is a logical holding, but is he the type to overplay AA/KK or maybe even AJs in this case? In hand 2 I cap the turn and call the river. With .5 aggression he almost certainly has QQ KK or 44 and with numbers like his it is more likely QQ or KK. |
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Re: Sometimes Monsters Are REAL
Hand 1: To be honest, I fold preflop. But that's another story. I'm trying to put myself in Button's shoes here. Does he really call your flop 3-bet and raise the turn with AA, KK or QQ? I doubt it. AJ, sure, but that's an unlikely 3-betting hand preflop for him. If I had the time during the hand to really think about this, I will just call his turn raise and call the river unless I quad up. On the fly, I probably 3-bet the turn and call down from there, though.
Hand 2: KQ is a lot more likely than KK or QQ. 44 also a possibility. I cap the turn for sure. Probably just call most rivers if he leads again, though. |
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To be honest, I fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] 5.25:1 is too sweet to pass up. |
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[ QUOTE ] To be honest, I fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] 5.25:1 is too sweet to pass up. [/ QUOTE ] I'm a little girl when it comes to variance. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
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