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Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
Blinds and UTG are way too loose for their own good. They're also very very weaktight postflop players. Whaddya think? How low should I be raising w/my pocket pairs here?
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>... |
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
Yeah this is good. I usually start doing it with either 6's or 7's and up depending on the table. I wouldn't do it with super small pairs.
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
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Yeah this is good. I usually start doing it with either 6's or 7's and up depending on the table. I wouldn't do it with super small pairs. Shill [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, my cutoff is the same. With 2 more limpers I'd probably do it with 55 and well; for some reason 22-44 don't sit well with me enough to pull it off. I guess this is why I've gone from VPIP22, PFR 8%, to VPIP 18%, PFR 12%. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Rob |
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
I guess this is why I've gone from VPIP22, PFR 8%, to VPIP 18%, PFR 12%
That is insane for a 10 man table. 2/3's of the hands you play are for raises, reminds me a lot of myself. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] |
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
I don't believe in my post-flop skills enough to make this raise.
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
It really has little to do with how well you play post-flop. When 4+ players limp in, pocket pairs almost always have more then their fair share of pot equity. You do it for 2 reasons:
1) To build a pot if you do hit a set. People will not put you on a medium pair, and you will likely win a huge pot. 2) To look at a turn when everyone checks to you and you miss. Shill |
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
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1) To build a pot if you do hit a set. People will not put you on a medium pair, and you will likely win a huge pot. [/ QUOTE ] If you PFR, doesn't that ruin the surprise? I know what you're saying here, but something about this reasoning bugs me. It's like "Well, you raise a strong hand because you've got pot equity" and "Well, you raise a weak hand because if you hit your draw people will pay off!" Seems contradictory. -- Scott |
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
77 is not a weak hand in a multiway pot. It is a great hand heads up and when people are playing all types of bad multiway hands (like T7o and such). If you hit a set, you are hoping that people will chase gutshots and overcards and backdoor draws by making the pot bigger preflop. You raise here for much the same reason that you would coldcall in a multiway pot.
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
Interesting move;
I can understand it's appeal, if you can fold a few players on a hand where no one showed any strength, you might be able to take a small pot with a marginal hand. How did it work for you? (I know we're not supposed to look at results, but I can't help myself [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Having said that, I agree that I probably wouldn't try this, as I still know my postflop play needs a lot more help. Regards, Francis |
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Re: Is this why my PFR keeps going up?
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Interesting move; I can understand it's appeal, if you can fold a few players on a hand where no one showed any strength, you might be able to take a small pot with a marginal hand. How did it work for you? (I know we're not supposed to look at results, but I can't help myself [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Having said that, I agree that I probably wouldn't try this, as I still know my postflop play needs a lot more help. Regards, Francis [/ QUOTE ] It was a boring hand postflop, which is why I just posted the preflop raise. 3 cards came (suits unimportant), everyone checked to me, I bet, and two people called. Another card came (again, suits unimportant), they checked to me, I bet, and one person called, the other folded. The river came, he checked, I bet, and he folded. Rob |
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