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Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
We've all read small stakes hold'em. We all know pot odds etc.
Yet when we get to high stakes games like 50/100 and 100/200, a lot of the rules change. We no longer raise aces every time, we don't always protect our hand and we constantly raise and check-raise with nothing. All of these are very basic mistakes that I am pointing out to people who just started playing, don't go too far with marginal hands, only raise when you know you got it etc. Plays like betting on the flop right away with 2 pair as opposed to waiting till turn to check-raise. ALl of these are common schemes on 50/100 I find, whereas they are nowhere to be found in 30/60 and below games. This confuses me a great bit. Is this what being "tricky" is? This is what separates high stakes players from average crowd? Discuss [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
This is simply mixing up your play which is what you need to do when you have thinking or semi-cognitive opponent. Small stakes opponents, 3/6 and below(maybe even 5/10) dont really give a thought to "trickiness" and you can go pretty ABC against them.
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
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This is simply mixing up your play which is what you need to do when you have thinking or semi-cognitive opponent. Small stakes opponents, 3/6 and below(maybe even 5/10) dont really give a thought to "trickiness" and you can go pretty ABC against them. [/ QUOTE ] you can consisently win alot higher than 5/10 playing ABC poker. |
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
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Plays like betting on the flop right away with 2 pair as opposed to waiting till turn to check-raise [/ QUOTE ] yea i never do this at low limits. |
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
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All of these are very basic mistakes that I am pointing out to people who just started playing...... only raise when you know you got it etc. [/ QUOTE ] I hope these people you are 'pointing' this out to aren't your friends. |
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
Metagame is everything man.
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
Doesn't the fact these plays are made to make more money make them +EV? You dont raise/check raise with nothing/limp aces because you believe it is minus EV, you do it because you think that these options give you the highest +EV for the current situation or sitations in the near future.
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
joe, people think they are playing correctly almost 100% of the time.
Does that make it so? no. These forums sort of piss me off because unless one of the superstars of high stakes replies to a thread or starts it, the threads just don't go anywhere. It's a very shallow and retarded thing but that's how it is. People talk of making these forums better, how about not replying with useless one liners? Leave that for OTT. Yes back to what we were discussing, a reply that makes others wanna chip in would be great [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
Are you kidding alexsem? Joe gave you about as reasonable of a response as you're going to get with this kind of question and you're ripping him apart saying he's giving you one liners? He explained it to you.
Give me a break. Go discuss with yourself or something. |
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Re: Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?
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joe, people think they are playing correctly almost 100% of the time. Does that make it so? no. These forums sort of piss me off because unless one of the superstars of high stakes replies to a thread or starts it, the threads just don't go anywhere. It's a very shallow and retarded thing but that's how it is. People talk of making these forums better, how about not replying with useless one liners? Leave that for OTT. Yes back to what we were discussing, a reply that makes others wanna chip in would be great [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Insert useless "what's OTT?" one liner here. |
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