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Do i make a wrong guess?
I played 3/6 in a cardroom yesterday.. and i had a hand that broke me..but i m wondering if i make any wrong move.
Preflop (12 SB): Hero UTH K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] raise 4 callers and both blinds call 6 players in the plot Flop ( 6 SB) : 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero bet: nobody fold. Turn 10 (8 BB)10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hero bets 2 callers mp3 2 bets.. 2 blinds fold Hero calls and the callers call river (10 BB) K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Raiser bets hero raises 2 callers fold raiser 3 bets.. There is several hands in my mind 1)99 He tries to slow play his set on the flop and 2 bets me on the turn. and doesn't know i outdraw him on the river...so he 3 bets me on the river 2)9 10 He 2 bets me on the turn, and he thinks his two pairs is good... 3)J Q.. the only hand that i worry...but why does he 2 bets me on the turn? He sure does have enough pot odd to raise for open end straight on the turn for value..but runner-runner? Hero is short-stacked..so he is going to go in all in with his remaining 3 bets anyway The results is obvious as hero went broke...but did i make any wrong decision? any suggestions are welcome |
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
Looks like a fairly easy cap to me.
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
Nope. I can't see anything wrong with the way you played this hand. The only hand that beats you on the river is QJ. You can't slow down. If you'd had more money you needed to cap the river. The only thing I'd caution you against is being so results oriented. You played it right, villian played it wrong and got lucky. That's poker.
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
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villian played it wrong [/ QUOTE ] As a blanket statement, this is pretty bad. Depending on Villan's read on the table (and especially Hero, who, remember, has bled down to where he's got less than 10BB, so he may be tilting or just plain bad), he's got as many as 11 outs, and with 3 opponents and 1 card to come 11 outs is almost exactly neutral-EV. But if Hero is weak-tight, and Villan can raise and fold a hand like AQ, then he's just bought himself some important outs. Granted, this assumes a lot, and since he played QJ in MP against a UTG PFR Villan is loose, so he might just not know what he's doing, but underestimating your opponents even in review is a good way to go broke. |
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
Thanks for the comments, and yes I do tend to underestimate my opponents. While villian's turn play "may" be okay, I think his preflop and flop play were clearly bad. Again I suppose it depends on villians read of hero, but how many outs does he have on the flop? Is 12-1 with 2 weak overcards and a backdoor str8 draw against a preflop raiser good enough for a call here? I wouldn't do it unless I was sure that my opponent was very weak-tight. Even then there are still other players in the hand, calling with something.
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
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I think his preflop and flop play were clearly bad [/ QUOTE ] Multi-level thinking, m'man! When I see a short-stack raising UTG my first thought is, "Wow, maybe he's got a good hand," and my second thought (close on the heels of the first) is, "Huh. He's short-stacked. I wonder if this is a panic-raise because the blinds are about to hit him." If he thinks that Hero is raising light (or just tilt-raising garbage, possibly), then preflop he's getting 7.5:2 to call with a decent multi-way hand (I'd limp this in MP3 with 2 limpers, wouldn't you?), and on the flop he's got around 7-8 outs, way more than enough to peel one. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: just because a player is loose doesn't mean they're bad, stupid or don't know what they're doing. |
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
Thanks for the schooling. Now I understand why everyone says you learn a lot more posting than lurking [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
In a B&M I'd probably notice the short stack and have the same thoughts you suggested. Online - even though I single table - I've missed the short stacks way too often! Given that, Yeah I'd probably cold call QJo from MP3 if there were a couple of limpers. Don't think I'd do it first to act after the raiser though - even with the "read". I'm still not convinced that villian has enough outs to peel one on the flop. Having said that, if I were in villian's place and had called preflop, I'd probably look at the turn anyway. So I take back my clearly bad play comment. Thanks again for the lesson! |
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
One hand that beats you.
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
cap -eh- slovakia
it aint even close |
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Re: Do i make a wrong guess?
I'm pretty sure its a English isn't his main language thing
but these made me laugh [ QUOTE ] Hero bet: nobody fold [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] hero bets 2 mp3 2 bets [/ QUOTE ] |
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