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AQ the monster laydown
Really interesting hand IMO. Second hand of a 200 SNG I limp from UTG+2 with AQo. A player who on the first hand went all in to steal the 25 in blinds, and who I have in my notes as "crazy fish", min raises to 30. Like the flop play in a limit shorthanded game, this means nothing.
Button, SB, BB, and I come along for the ride. Flop A95, 2 diamonds. Checked to me, I bet 150. Fishy calls, and a player who I see often, but for some reason have no notes on, calls from the button. The rest fold. Turn: A diamond. I think and check, crazy fish goes all-in. Right as I am prepared to call, the player on the button calls the all-in. I fold. Comments appreciated. -Jason |
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Re: AQ the monster laydown
I think you have to fold here. Button has to have something since he knows there is a chance you have something (which you do) so he has more to worry about that just the crazy fish. Sure looks like a flopped set or something like KQd and more likely the set.
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Re: AQ the monster laydown
Someone who flopped a set is dreaming of the board pairing and giving someone trips against their boat. Good fold.
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Re: AQ the monster laydown
If the button has "crazy fish" in his notes too, he could be calling with any pair here (unlikely to have called on the flop though), or an A with a weaker kicker. (VERY possibly an A with weak kicker, after calling your raise preflop and smooth calling on the flop.) I'm not sure I like your fold. I think its primarily dependent on your read on the button. Absent all other info, I probably call online and fold in real life.
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Re: AQ the monster laydown
Actually he LIMPED from MP with AQo. Mistake no. 1 then flopping Top pair 2nd best kicker he makes a smallish bet. Mistake no. 2. Then layes it down. But considering the way he played this hand from pre flop to lay down it was the least of the mistakes.
If one insists on limping with a good hand per flop then when a "fish" raises I like the reraise here to see where I stand. I will be raising or folding in this position. No testorine problems here. |
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Re: AQ the monster laydown
was that supposed to be "testosterone?"
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Re: AQ the monster laydown
Hey Mike,
I used to raise AQo, now I limp. I raise AQs. This is when the blinds are low, and when I'm out of position. In my game, a typical opponent will not call an opening raise with AJo. Raising AQo where I will not get calls from many dominated hands, and playing a larger pot out of position is not good. If I had good position, I would have no problem raising. AQ also has great value IMO when the flop comes Axx, because people with hands like AJ and AT and worse will often passively pay you off. It's also easy to fold to a lot of aggression, because you haven't made a big pot. My bet on the flop was exactly the pot. By my book that is not a smallish bet, but a standard bet. [ QUOTE ] If one insists on limping with a good hand per flop then when a "fish" raises I like the reraise here to see where I stand. I will be raising or folding in this position. [/ QUOTE ] The fish called my flop bet and raised me all-in on the turn. How do I reraise here? When do you suggest I reraise? I think you have a few of the details of this post off, -Jason |
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Details Details!!
"Turn: A diamond. I think and check, crazy fish goes all-in. Right as I am prepared to call, the player on the button calls the all-in. I fold."
So the fish didn't raise you all in on the turs you checked he went all in you folded. Look if you want to play no limit hold'em as a weak tight calling station that's your call. All I am pointing out is it is wrong to limp with AQ as a "rule" and it is also wrong to give draws painless draws. That's all! Just my humble opinion. What is this stuff about YOUR GAME I thought you were talking about a Single Table on line. Where some of the worst players on the planet live - that's why I like them. |
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Re: Details Details!!
[ QUOTE ]
"Turn: A diamond. I think and check, crazy fish goes all-in. Right as I am prepared to call, the player on the button calls the all-in. I fold." So the fish didn't raise you all in on the turs you checked he went all in you folded. Look if you want to play no limit hold'em as a weak tight calling station that's your call. All I am pointing out is it is wrong to limp with AQ as a "rule" and it is also wrong to give draws painless draws. That's all! Just my humble opinion. What is this stuff about YOUR GAME I thought you were talking about a Single Table on line. Where some of the worst players on the planet live - that's why I like them. [/ QUOTE ] Mike, Might want to stick around for awhile before coming out firing like this. Jason is no weak-tight calling station and I guarantee you that he doesn't like AQo "as a rule." Only in this particular spot, where his arguments about why make a lot of sense. And grouping all "Single Table on line" games together is ridiculous. The PP $215s are not inhabited by "the worst players on the planet". eastbay |
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Re: Details Details!!
What the hell are you talking about Mike. He bet the flop and then check-folded the turn. How is that playing like a calling station.
It's wrong as a "rule" to limp with AQ? You are ridiculous. And giving people painless draws when you have bet the pot? You are either being retarded on purpose or are a total jackass. |
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