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can i fold KK pre-flop ?
$100+$9 on empire - hand 4 with stack sizes all around T1000 - i get KK UTG+2 - UTG open limps and the next guy folds - i raise to T60 and the guy to my left pushes (T920) - folded to the BB who calls - UTG calls
stripsqueez - chickenhawk |
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
Goddammit, you're a decent poster and I thought you were better than this kitten killing thread [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
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Goddammit, you're a decent poster and I thought you were better than this kitten killing thread [/ QUOTE ] visions of flushing kittens have been running through my head but i dont get it ? stripsqueez - chickenhawk |
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
Search my name in the MTT forum for the 'fantasy NLHE' thread.
(this is Party. sometimes he has aces. more often, he feels like calling. you have kings. call) |
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
Nope. Only AA has you beat. And its a wierd way to play AA anyway. To me AA makes a smaller raise than this. If he has AA I pray and move on to the next SNG.
I put him on AK or a TT-QQ. I think you are way ahead. |
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
Re-read his post. He ain't worried about the guy to his left. If UTG is solid, it is very likely he holds AA. But, without a few hundreds hands with UTG to gauge his play, I reluctantly call.
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
I have been in a similar situation in the first level of a $30 NLHE SNG. I had KK and someone went all in when there was only one limper before him. I called and he had AA. The major difference is that I wouldn't expect this to happen as much at a $100 table.
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
There should be a sticky "Should I fold KK preflop" thread. I don't see many people playing AA this way. Whatever his hand, this guy has made a ridiculous bet so who knows what he could have? But you have no reason to put him on AA with any degree of certainty, so call.
UTG is more of a worry. |
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
If my math is correct, it is an easy call for me. You have two "pushes" which means I would be betting t940 into a t2000 pot. About 2.1 to 1 odds.
The only hand I am really worried about is AA. I think the odds of someone waking up with AA is about 4.4% in a ten handed deal. That means that 95.6% of the time, I will be a 56% favoirte to win the hand three handed (example: in a worse case senario, the BB wakes up with AK and UTG with QQ, I am a 56% favorite to win). Even the 4.4% time I run into AA, all is not lost. I will still win 18% of the time (example if BB wakes up with AA and UTG has QQ, I will still have a 18% chance to win). If my math is correct, I make this call, because in the long run, I have a big edge. Please let me know if I am mistaken. I am new to the game and have plenty to learn. |
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Re: can i fold KK pre-flop ?
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If my math is correct, it is an easy call for me. You have two "pushes" which means I would be betting t940 into a t2000 pot. About 2.1 to 1 odds. The only hand I am really worried about is AA. I think the odds of someone waking up with AA is about 4.4% in a ten handed deal. That means that 95.6% of the time, I will be a 56% favoirte to win the hand three handed (example: in a worse case senario, the BB wakes up with AK and UTG with QQ, I am a 56% favorite to win). Even the 4.4% time I run into AA, all is not lost. I will still win 18% of the time (example if BB wakes up with AA and UTG has QQ, I will still have a 18% chance to win). If my math is correct, I make this call, because in the long run, I have a big edge. Please let me know if I am mistaken. I am new to the game and have plenty to learn. [/ QUOTE ] 3 pushes. The person to your left, the BB and UTG. In this case you are going to see aces a lot more than 4.4% of the time. If it was just the UTG or BB, I would take may chances. |
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