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Check behind on the turn?
Ok, chew on this one:
Villain is relatively unknown, he has played tight so far though. Thats all i know. Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (5 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero?.. Everyone wants to bet? |
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
I think it is close between betting and checking, but I would probalby just go ahead and bet. Even if you get check-raised, you probably have 14 or so outs, and you'd hate to give him a free card if he has a gut-shot.
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
But is really a gut shot that likely? It seems to me that free cards isn't that big of a threat.
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
[ QUOTE ]
But is really a gut shot that likely? It seems to me that free cards isn't that big of a threat. [/ QUOTE ] In a small pot, they aren't much of a threat. So giving a free cards is not that bad here. But if the player isn't so tight, you might be missing a value bet. |
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
the bet is for value. your large equity protects you from a turn c/r.
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
It’s a small pot, I’m checking and folding to the turn bet. What can SB have that you beat if he’s calling a raise and a bet on the flop. 99-JJ? Maybe 4 Qxs hands (QJ, QT, Q9, Q8), but that’s unlikely if he’s tight. I’d put him on AK-A10, or 99-JJ, so that’s too many hands that beat you.
My humble opinion… |
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
Just checking the flop? That is truly weak...
I think checking this turn would be alright against a tight player (that wouldn't call without some piece of the flop) with our outs and then calling a river bet ui, since he might be bluffing because of our check / betting a weaker queen. |
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
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It’s a small pot, I’m checking and folding to the turn bet. What can SB have that you beat if he’s calling a raise and a bet on the flop. 99-JJ? Maybe 4 Qxs hands (QJ, QT, Q9, Q8), but that’s unlikely if he’s tight. I’d put him on AK-A10, or 99-JJ, so that’s too many hands that beat you. My humble opinion… [/ QUOTE ] This is really, really weak-tight. I strongly encourage you to: 1. Realize that your opponent's play weak cards, and often their reasoning process would make no sense to you. 2. Realize that hand values become magnified in heads-up pots. This means opponents will often never fold any pair. 3. Appreciate that getting maximum value out of marginal (like, non-top-pair) hands, particularly in heads-up pots, is one of the keys to becoming an expert player. If you move up levels, you will find yourself in situations like this a whole lot, and you need to be looking for value in situations like this. So, yes, we need to bet this flop. |
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
he misread the hand, but he's talking about the turn
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Re: Check behind on the turn?
I'd hate to get check/raised here, but I bet this turn not expecting to get check/raised very often even when he has us beat. Since I'm planing to invest at least 1 more BB in this pot I think it's better to do that on the turn. The only hands check/raising here is a flush or AQ assuming villain is tight. Sometimes a lone A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] will check/raise too. The read is vague and if villain isn't this tight the bet is correct for other reasons.
The preflop call often suggest villain isn't einstein and I think we should take the opportunity to collect calls from a weaker fd. I take a free sd UI. |
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