Limping QQ under the gun

[akishore]

(cross-posted in SS NL)

Hi,

I am a member of another poker forum, and I posted a very controversial hand on there that generated a bunch of heated debate.

I claimed that in a deep stack no limit game, it is standard for me to limp a hand as big as QQ under the gun.

Before I divulge into reasons, I just want to hear some thoughts here. Can this be right? Or is it always wrong? etc.

Thanks,
Aseem

[BobboFitos]

Hi, I like posting random preflop questions without regard to blinds, stacks, table texture, image, and table flow. Is my move better then this other standard move?

[Voltron87]

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Hi, I like posting random preflop questions without regard to blinds, stacks, table texture, image, and table flow. Is my move better then this other standard move?

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Yes, always.

[MightyMouse]

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Hi, I like posting random preflop questions without regard to blinds, stacks, table texture, image, and table flow. Is my move better then this other standard move?

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he wonders why people think hes a nit.


but to the OP, you should raise for information and to make people pay for suited connectors etc.

[akishore]

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but to the OP, you should raise for information and to make people pay for suited connectors etc.

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Can you elaborate?

I've covered these points and have my own reasons.

I believe that information is often more reliable when it's postflop in unraised pots, rather than preflop in raised pots (at least in the loose games I play in).

I also believe that I'm not really making suited connectors and the like "pay" when I'm charing them 4 or 5 bb's and we have 200 bb's or more in front of us.

No one has touched on this, but my biggest reason for doing what I do is position.

Aseem

[DrPublo]

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I also believe that I'm not really making suited connectors and the like "pay" when I'm charing them 4 or 5 bb's and we have 200 bb's or more in front of us.

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Um there are far more important reasons for raising before the flop than making suited connectors "pay to crack you." But hey if you want to check/fold with QQ every time you don't hit a set please be my guest.

The Doc

[akishore]

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I also believe that I'm not really making suited connectors and the like "pay" when I'm charing them 4 or 5 bb's and we have 200 bb's or more in front of us.

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Um there are far more important reasons for raising before the flop than making suited connectors "pay to crack you." But hey if you want to check/fold with QQ every time you don't hit a set please be my guest.

The Doc

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I was responding to this post by MightyMouse:

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but to the OP, you should raise for information and to make people pay for suited connectors etc.

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And by the way, I stated (I believe) that I'm not check/folding every time I don't hit a set.

Aseem

[akishore]

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Hi, I like posting random preflop questions without regard to blinds, stacks, table texture, image, and table flow. Is my move better then this other standard move?

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No need for the condescendence.

I leave all that up to you.

The question I pose is precisely: *are there* any conditions--table, player, etc.--under which limping a hand like QQ under the gun can be correct?

Aseem

[JKratzer]

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The question I pose is precisely: *are there* any conditions--table, player, etc.--under which limping a hand like QQ under the gun can be correct?

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The question to this answer is obvious. The fact you are posting it here means you want vindication for getting ragged on at another forum.

Congratulations, this is the first "bad beat" post I've seen without you even playing a hand.

[akishore]

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The question I pose is precisely: *are there* any conditions--table, player, etc.--under which limping a hand like QQ under the gun can be correct?

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The question to this answer is obvious. The fact you are posting it here means you want vindication for getting ragged on at another forum.

Congratulations, this is the first "bad beat" post I've seen without you even playing a hand.

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lol. Not sure what you mean, and while I believe the "obvious" answer is that there might be certain conditions where limping is correct, a lot of players had a hard time believing this.

I'm not really talking about the obvious ones like there is a maniac on my left, or the big blind is a maniac, or the game is super loose/aggro and I plan on reraising every time.

So "obviously" there are certain conditions which this is correct, but can you help me out and think of some instead of flaming me?

Aseem