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My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
I've played with villain once before. He's known to be aggressive postflop and loose passive preflop. Here's a note from the previous session with him (if anything in my notes is unclear, just ask):
Limp 34s MP, B/3-bet vs. my K-R 566 f, K 8 t, bluff 7 r - I had K5o BB Also in this session, I picked up another interesting note: Willing to bet river after passivity (bluff? value bet?) = Limp KQo SB, K 637d f, K A t, B A r - lost to J7o For the hand itself, how do you feel about the turn bet? Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls. Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls. River: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 7.50 BB |
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
Your line looks okay...but I might have just checked and called the entire way (or at least 4th and 5th if he called my flop bet).
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
Seeing as you bet out the flop and turn I think you should have bet the river and if he raised it back folded. he likely would just call anyways or even better - fold.. I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff.
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
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I think you should have bet the river and if he raised it back folded. he likely would just call anyways or even better - fold.. I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold ... [/ QUOTE ] is he going to fold a pair heads up for one more bet on the river after calling all the way? I think he won't. I can't really make sense of your notes, but it looks like he might be the loose/aggressive/likes to bluff type. |
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
likes to bluff type.
This is the key part of the read. Explains why I like check/calling so much. Brad |
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
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Seeing as you bet out the flop and turn I think you should have bet the river and if he raised it back folded. he likely would just call anyways or even better - fold.. [/ QUOTE ] If he folds, I had him beat anyway. But there aren't many hands better than mine which will fold. So I don't see how much there is to gain by betting here. [ QUOTE ] I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Good. That was my plan. The river is a scare card, putting 4 to a straight on the board. |
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
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[ QUOTE ] I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Good. That was my plan. The river is a scare card, putting 4 to a straight on the board. [/ QUOTE ] If that was your plan to have him bluff at you then why did you just call and not raise? Makes no sense to me... |
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Good. That was my plan. The river is a scare card, putting 4 to a straight on the board. [/ QUOTE ] If that was your plan to have him bluff at you then why did you just call and not raise? Makes no sense to me... [/ QUOTE ] Because our raise is only called by a hand that beats us. |
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Good. That was my plan. The river is a scare card, putting 4 to a straight on the board. [/ QUOTE ] If that was your plan to have him bluff at you then why did you just call and not raise? Makes no sense to me... [/ QUOTE ] You're not considering the consequences of your actions. What happens if he's bluffing and I check-raise him? Unless he's hyper-aggressive or just very very very curious, he's folding. What did that raise accomplish? I don't win any extra money out of it. What happens if he's not bluffing and I check-raise him? He'll probably call. Since he's not bluffing, he probably has ace-high beat. Since he probably has ace-high beat, I'm probably losing two BB on the river instead of just one. So I can only do worse by check-raising his bluff. Therefore, calling is better. |
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Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)
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Your line looks okay...but I might have just checked and called the entire way (or at least 4th and 5th if he called my flop bet). Brad [/ QUOTE ] Check-calling might be okay, I guess. I don't really like giving him the option of taking free cards if he's holding something like 97s. I think I would rather bet and hope he'll fold (at least on the flop), rather than check and play chicken with the turn and river cards. |
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