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a hand has got me thinking
so, I played this hand last night against a solid 2p2er. I'm wondering what you guys think about it b/c it seems tricky as hell to me. This isn't the exact hand, but food for thought.
Anyways, hero has A9o in the bb. Live 4/8 game, I think we're 7 handed at this point. Could be 8, could be 6 but I'm pretty sure its at least 7. Villan (brettbrettr) raises in UTG +1. Brett can be out of line, but seems to be playing solid hands tonight. SB, a tight/passive type player calls from the SB. He hasn't been playing many hands tonight, stuck, running bad etc. His call is meaningful, brett thinks. Not sure if Hero agrees. So, BB calls with A9o. (Thoughts?) Anyways, 3 to the flop for 6 sbs: Ad2s3s What's hero's flop plan? Bear in mind that Hero knows that villan will bet this flop with very nearly 100% of his holdings when checked to. |
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
hero should have folded pre-flop but if he thinks that his Ace could easily be good, he should play it wa/wb and bet the river.
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
Hero should check the flop.
Making a plan for the entire hand based only on preflop action and the flop cards is extremely overrated. Use the information available to you at every step. |
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
I think BB should just muck Preflop unless he feels that Villain is screwing around. He also has tight SB to worry about.
Postflop my line would be check/call, check/call if possible. I think we're WA/WB against both players. |
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
Yeah, I think hero is pretty much screwed, so, fold PF.
On the flop, I could see checking to see how SB reacts to your autobet. I could also see betting out since I do not think you would raise this flop without a better hand. Of course you're going to expect villian to C/R his real hands in this spot, so I dunno, it sucks. |
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
I'd check/call the flop.
If the turn went check/check/bet/call, I'd fold. If the turn went check/check/bet/fold, I'd still want to fold. |
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
WA/WB. I'm check-calling one bet on the flop and folding if the SB check-raises. After that my play depends on whether the SB sticks around, but the general idea is going to be check-call/check-call and then bet the river.
Will |
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
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WA/WB. I'm check-calling one bet on the flop and folding if the SB check-raises. After that my play depends on whether the SB sticks around, but the general idea is going to be check-call/check-call and then bet the river. Will [/ QUOTE ] Are you calling a river raise from Brett? Remember, Brett knows this line too This is what I thought was so interesting abou the hand, by the way. I guess I presented the hand like [censored], but assuming its 3 handed on the river, and you donk the river, and brett raises, wtf? |
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
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...but assuming its 3 handed on the river, and you donk the flop, and brett raises, wtf? [/ QUOTE ] Huh? |
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Re: a hand has got me thinking
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[ QUOTE ] ...but assuming its 3 handed on the river, and you donk the flop, and brett raises, wtf? [/ QUOTE ] Huh? [/ QUOTE ] He actually makes a valid point. There is more than one WA/WB line and if I opted to do that here I would not bet the river - he's probably not calling with an underpair anyway. I could see check/folding the river because he will always value bet bigger Aces and check behind with KK-77 or whatever. |
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