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all in or stop and go?
9 handed, CO+1 open raises i'm in bb w/ TT. Blinds at 100/200, I have 1520 before posting the 200 he has like 8,000. He raised w/ a KJ from CO+3 earlier and called a check raise all in w/ the KJ on an AJrag board of two clubs (he had no clubs). So I know I have no fold equity but is my hand too big here not to reraise pre-flop? Or should I go with a standard stop and go push which would be a $920 bet into a $1300 pot.
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Re: all in or stop and go?
I'm AI pf.
You're ahead of his range, and as such want to a) charge him full price to see a flop to try to get lucky. b) not let him get away from a hand that completely misses the flop. |
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Re: all in or stop and go?
Just what I want to hear, two quality players arguing each side of the coin. I guess it comes down to is it more important to win a smaller pot a higher % of the time? Or get all my money in pre as a slight favorite, therefore winning a larger pot less than if I used a stop and go. Another question say I were to have done a stop and go, and the flop comes T52, should I just check here and let him put me AI? Or does that reveal too much about my hand after calling so much of my stack preflop?
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Re: all in or stop and go?
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The flop comes T52, should I just check here and let him put me AI? Or does that reveal too much about my hand after calling so much of my stack preflop? [/ QUOTE ] No brainer... check. If he would potentially fold to the stop and go, you can't afford to lose him here. |
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Re: all in or stop and go?
Thats what I thought but it just seems so obvious that I have a good hand, kinda like someone in limit who 3 bets preflop then checks on a K rag rag flop, you just know he has KK, well at least at 5/10 and lower I know for sure.
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Re: all in or stop and go?
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Thats what I thought but it just seems so obvious that I have a good hand, kinda like someone in limit who 3 bets preflop then checks on a K rag rag flop, you just know he has KK, well at least at 5/10 and lower I know for sure. [/ QUOTE ] The difference here is that you weren't a pre-flop aggressor. Check, let him put you all in and go "Wheeeeeeeeeee" |
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Re: all in or stop and go?
I'm still bugged by this hand.
Now that the OP is here, what's CO+1, what's the buyin and, if you recall, what's your image at the table? |
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Re: all in or stop and go?
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Just what I want to hear, two quality players arguing each side of the coin. I guess it comes down to is it more important to win a smaller pot a higher % of the time? Or get all my money in pre as a slight favorite, therefore winning a larger pot less than if I used a stop and go. Another question say I were to have done a stop and go, and the flop comes T52, should I just check here and let him put me AI? Or does that reveal too much about my hand after calling so much of my stack preflop? [/ QUOTE ] I'm checking here every time. Your read makes him sound pretty agro. There's no way you're getting away from a set there (or really any set), might as well do your darndest to make him committ more chips. |
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Re: all in or stop and go?
I think this is a perfect spot for a stop and go. You'll be acting first on the flop. You're ahead of his range. You have no folding equity. And there's a better chance that he has overcards then a smaller pair.
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Re: all in or stop and go?
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I think this is a perfect spot for a stop and go. You'll be acting first on the flop. You're ahead of his range. You have no folding equity. And there's a better chance that he has overcards then a smaller pair. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand. Assuming he has over and you use the stop n go: If he hits, he calls and you would have wanted a fold. If he misses, he folds and you would have wanted a call. (read on the villain suggests strongly we wont be able to get him to fold if he hits middle pair or something). |
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