One more damn bet

bicyclekick · #1 10-18-2005, 12:58 AM

BB is the mediocre type. I don't remember his stats but somewhere in the 32/12/1.4 range. One of those guys that doesn't quite get it but isn't the worst player in the world either.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button folds.

River: (9.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero ?

Dominic · #2 10-18-2005, 01:09 AM

u gotta call just to see his A6 suited

bicyclekick · #3 10-18-2005, 01:10 AM

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u gotta call just to see his A6 suited

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I do? Why?

Dominic · #4 10-18-2005, 12:14 PM

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u gotta call just to see his A6 suited

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I do? Why?

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for fun.

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Paluka · #5 10-18-2005, 01:14 AM

You never win this hand.

mctommy015 · #6 10-18-2005, 01:14 AM

A bit above my limits, but it seems like its pretty clear you have a big ace and he's saying he can beat you... I just don't see him playing AJ or AT this way

Jeffage · #7 10-18-2005, 01:19 AM

Now this is interesting. Look at the 50-100 hand I posted below where I'm checkraised holding top-top on the river. Many (not all) advocated a payoff there. But I think it's much more likely you're ahead than I am in the hand I posted. I could see some schnook raising with AJ or A10 on the end here with some notion there is value and they'll fold to a 3-bet. Unlikely? Sure. Possible? Yes.

I still fold against someone I know to not be hyperaggressive or make moves generally, however.

Jeff

andyfox · #8 10-18-2005, 01:44 AM

Sure would seem he improved on the river to a hand better than yours.

Anybody like check-calling the river? If he has a hand of value, he'd likely bet behind when you checked the river, espeically short-handed, no? That is, you win the same one bet when you have the best hand, but save a bet when beat without putting yourself in the position of possibly folding the winning hand if he raises.

poker1O1 · #9 10-18-2005, 02:09 AM

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Sure would seem he improved on the river to a hand better than yours.

Anybody like check-calling the river? If he has a hand of value, he'd likely bet behind when you checked the river, espeically short-handed, no? That is, you win the same one bet when you have the best hand, but save a bet when beat without putting yourself in the position of possibly folding the winning hand if he raises.

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i dont see anything wrong with this line OOP, especially if u'll fold to a river raise.

ggbman · #10 10-18-2005, 02:42 AM

Andy,

In a typical party 20-40 game, this is a definite value bet as villian calls with a variety of worse aces and other one pair hands. Given the river action, i really want to fold. I think it is generally the correct move, and that calling is very SLIGHTLY -EV. Justa hunch though, you will be shows a worse hand from time to time.