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2/4: AK, A Free Showdown for QTip...
I played this hand at ReadyEddie's house, so I don't have the exact history on me. Villain was a 30/10/2.5 type. I haven't done the math, but I'm pretty sure it's good.
I open with AKo from MP and it's folded to villain in the BB who calls. Flop is JJ4r. Villain bets, I call. Turn is a Q. Villain bets, I ask Eddie, "Are you ready for this?" and raise... |
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Re: 2/4: AK, A Free Showdown for QTip...
Compared to calling down, we're charging ourselves to draw versus 66. (It's possible Villain won't fire with that again on the river, opting to check-call instead -- or maybe even check-fold, if he gets counterfeited.) And if Villain will fire the whole way with A7s, we'd prefer to let him keep doing that (though it wouldn't be a tragedy if he folded his kicker and chopping outs, especially since he might not really fire again). Also, there is some chance he's really got a jack and persistently going for a bet/3-bet line.
However, as compensation, I think you've got some good fold equity versus the marginal part of Villain's range. And, if behind, you could have as many as 16 outs. I have trouble figuring out when to make free-showdown raises. I think I like this one, though. |
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Re: 2/4: AK, A Free Showdown for QTip...
a free showdown raise is good when:
1) there is a chance you have the best hand 2)you have some outs to improve to the best hand (therefore if they call you can fire on the river and win 3 bets instead of 2, but if you miss you still only pay 2 bets for the showdown: same as calling down) 3)FOLD EQUITY, villass might fold a lowpair or a hand that has 6 outs against you. |
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Re: 2/4: AK, A Free Showdown for QTip...
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a free showdown raise is good when: 1) there is a chance you have the best hand 2)you have some outs to improve to the best hand (therefore if they call you can fire on the river and win 3 bets instead of 2, but if you miss you still only pay 2 bets for the showdown: same as calling down) 3)FOLD EQUITY, villass might fold a lowpair or a hand that has 6 outs against you. [/ QUOTE ] Check, check, and check. |
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Re: 2/4: AK, A Free Showdown for QTip...
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[ QUOTE ] a free showdown raise is good when: 1) there is a chance you have the best hand 2)you have some outs to improve to the best hand (therefore if they call you can fire on the river and win 3 bets instead of 2, but if you miss you still only pay 2 bets for the showdown: same as calling down) 3)FOLD EQUITY, villass might fold a lowpair or a hand that has 6 outs against you. [/ QUOTE ] Check, check, and check. [/ QUOTE ] yep that was my point. NH. i dont get this misconception that a free showdown play is only good if you can fold to a 3 bet. wouldnt you like to bet the river if you are going to fold to a 3 bet and just get called? |
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Re: 2/4: AK, A Free Showdown for QTip...
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NH. i dont get this misconception that a free showdown play is only good if you can fold to a 3 bet. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: 2/4: AK, A Free Showdown for QTip...
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a free showdown raise is good when: 1) there is a chance you have the best hand 2)you have some outs to improve to the best hand (therefore if they call you can fire on the river and win 3 bets instead of 2, but if you miss you still only pay 2 bets for the showdown: same as calling down) 3)FOLD EQUITY, villass might fold a lowpair or a hand that has 6 outs against you. [/ QUOTE ] You forgot the part about either being able to fold to a three-bet or being three-bet so rarely that it doesn't matter much (this means < 3% of the time, not 10% of the time) Will |
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Re: 2/4: AK, A Free Showdown for QTip...
I don't like it at all when the Q hits. I don't think you have much fold equity and you could have 10 outs = you can't fold to a 3bet. Just call down if you are not going to fold.
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A free showdown raise with QJ (semi LC)
A LC addition to the free showdown discussion that has been going on....
Party Poker 10.00/20.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(2 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls. Flop: (4.00 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (3.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls. River: (7.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. Final Pot: 7.00 BB. Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF"> SB has 3s 2s (a pair of sixes.) Hero has Jd Qh (a pair of sixes.) Hero wins 6.95 BB. </font> |
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Re: A free showdown raise with QJ (semi LC)
Hobbs,
I think this is a terrible spot for this play. How often do you think that Q high is going to win at showdown? If you are going to semi-bluff this, I think you have to bet the river - wouldn't you feel foolish if he took the pot with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? (yeah, I know you said LC... I'll stop now) |
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