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JJ faces aggression
45/15 villain. 100nl. edit: post flop agg is about 2.
PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> SB ($23.00) BB ($25.65) <font color="#C00000">UTG ($73.00)</font> MP ($82.10) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($197.00)</font> Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $4. Flop: ($11.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $10. Turn: ($51.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $21</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font> My logic is that I'm not folding to this bet, and that pot commits me, so I may as well put him in just in case he is drawing. Edit: I expect him to call, ideally with pair+fd but i could be beat. |
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Re: JJ faces aggression
Dust,
I like the aggression, but I feel it missed placed, here it's too risky. I think first of all the preflop raise was not big enough I would of gone to $8, but $6 is a minimum, I don't think $5 accomplishes much. I would have bet the pot also, I know you bet almost that but go ahead and throw the other $2 in there to make it $12 and not $10, When he raised to $20 this is where I would 3 bet him and go to $60 if he reraises me, I most likely have to fold, if he calls and you see the turn is another club, I have to slow down a bit and bet 2/3 the pot, if he raises me I fold, on the river unless an 8 or Jack come I most likely check and only call a small bet. In this hand I'm really trying to take it down before another club can come on the turn or river, after that I proceed with caution, also he could of had an 8 here, it's too risky to raise on the turn, should have been on the flop, I feel |
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Re: JJ faces aggression
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Dust, I like the aggression, but I feel it missed placed, here it's too risky. I think first of all the preflop raise was not big enough I would of gone to $8, but $6 is a minimum, I don't think $5 accomplishes much. I would have bet the pot also, I know you bet almost that but go ahead and throw the other $2 in there to make it $12 and not $10, When he raised to $20 this is where I would 3 bet him and go to $60 if he reraises me, I most likely have to fold, if he calls and you see the turn is another club, I have to slow down a bit and bet 2/3 the pot, if he raises me I fold, on the river unless an 8 or Jack come I most likely check and only call a small bet. In this hand I'm really trying to take it down before another club can come on the turn or river, after that I proceed with caution, also he could of had an 8 here, it's too risky to raise on the turn, should have been on the flop, I feel [/ QUOTE ] this makes little sense. look at the stack sizes |
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Re: JJ faces aggression
Flop is push/fold time. Decide if you are ahead or not.
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Re: JJ faces aggression
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Flop is push/fold time. Decide if you are ahead or not. [/ QUOTE ] You push 50 into a 30 pot on that flop? I think I'm ahead, so I want to extract, not fold him out... Can you explain your logic please |
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Re: JJ faces aggression
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You push 50 into a 30 pot on that flop? I think I'm ahead, so I want to extract, not fold him out... Can you explain your logic please [/ QUOTE ] My reasoning for the same suggestion is based on your remark about the turn. A scare card comes, and you're pushing because you're committed... If you're using that logic, you've mentally committed yourself on the flop and you may as well push while you may still have the lead. |
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Re: JJ faces aggression
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My reasoning for the same suggestion is based on your remark about the turn. A scare card comes, and you're pushing because you're committed [/ QUOTE ] Is it bad if I wasnt scared by the club? I dont think a fd check/min raises on this flop. |
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Re: JJ faces aggression
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[ Is it bad if I wasnt scared by the club? I dont think a fd check/min raises on this flop. [/ QUOTE ] Nah, I kinda think he may be sitting on A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Tx, personally. I'm a wuss, though, and don't want to have to make that decision on the turn - so I'd prefer to make it on the flop when if I'm wrong about my read and he does have a FD, I still have a chance to win. |
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Re: JJ faces aggression
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If he's playing T8 or T2 give him his money, you'll stack him later. [/ QUOTE ] I don't like this; I'd rather fold to an 8 and stack him later anyway. If I can put him on better than a pair I want to make the fold. Seems obvious but I guess it's worth saying. |
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Re: JJ faces aggression
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[ QUOTE ] Flop is push/fold time. Decide if you are ahead or not. [/ QUOTE ] You push 50 into a 30 pot on that flop? I think I'm ahead, so I want to extract, not fold him out... Can you explain your logic please [/ QUOTE ] Pushing is the best way to extract. And a push is about a pot-sized reraise. If you call, about 1/2 the deck is a scare card for you and you will probably make a mistake on the turn. edit: How often do people check/minraise the flop for 1/3 of their stack and then fold? |
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