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Every one is new to this game. I am embarrased to post this but what exactly is the ABC play here and why please.
I raised pre flop, called the flop, should I have played it different? How about the turn? I have nothing but an over card and the board is beating me. Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls. Flop: (6.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (4.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ????? |
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I can find a fold on the flop.
EDIT: You have a backdoor straight draw, plus 1 over. Your hand is probably worth about 3-4 outs. |
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I'd fold on the flop, you've got 1.5 outs for the 3 aces (because you won't win when you hit an A all the time). You can't be confident about the J's either.
Even if you gave yourself 3 outs you still don't have the proper pot odds to call. You practically need 6, which you don't have. |
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Oh and it's not a sin to fold the flop when you raised pre-flop. Betting into the pre-flop raiser indicates some kind of strength. You're not getting the best of it, so fold.
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I think I raise this flop if I'm 3 bet I can find a fold even though we're getting great odds to call.
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Preflop - Raise is good
Flop - Fold is most likely best for a few reasons 1. The pot is not huge(the pot is always the first thing to consideer) 2. If the bettor has a Q you are essentially drawing dead, save runner/runner 3. You have no really good backdoor draws (board would be alot better for you if the Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] was instead [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]). Your straight backdoor draw isn't that grand either since you don't have 3 connected. One could argue for a RAISE on the flop, in order to buy a free card on the turn and see the river for free. Then you can fold to a river bet. If you raise and are 3 bet you simply fold. |
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I'd fold the flop too and then keep an eye on BB to make sure he doesn't make a habit out of betting into scary flops.
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Does villian here automatically have a Q? I find it hard to believe that most of the lower limit players would simply bet out and not go for a c/r o this flop if they had a Q. Personally I tend to think he has hand like 109s or a J10. We may very well be folding the best hand here if we autofold on the flop. I think raising tells us if we're beat or not and can also give us a free card. As long as we're disciplined enough to fold to a 3 bet on the flop I really like raising here.
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find it hard to believe that most of the lower limit players would simply bet out and not go for a c/r o this flop if they had a Q [/ QUOTE ] c/r'ing this flop with a Q would be a very bad play... |
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[ QUOTE ] find it hard to believe that most of the lower limit players would simply bet out and not go for a c/r o this flop if they had a Q [/ QUOTE ] c/r'ing this flop with a Q would be a very bad play... [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Needless to say I don't give villian much credit here. |
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