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I saw this hand scoping my B&M yesterday.
If you had K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on a 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] board would you value raise infinately, even though you knew your opponent had 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Would it change if you had the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]??? What if the roles were reversed??? JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] |
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i punched that into pokerstove and found out that KK has a 57% edge. so hell yeah im 10-betting that flop if given the possibility.
a OESFD kicks in about 56% (dont remember the exact number) but the set has redraws to beat the other draw. |
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Yes, if there's no cap heads-up, I raise until I run out of chips. You're a favorite over his 15 outs. Even if he hits his 15 outer, you have a 10-out redraw (assuming he didn't make a straight flush).
In fact, I wrote the above before doing a PokerStove. Results: Board: 5h 6h Kc Dead: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 57.8788 % 57.88% 00.00% { KdKs } Hand 2: 42.1212 % 42.12% 00.00% { 8h7h } |
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Im not really sure but i think the set has the advantage here so i would raise (remember sets can make boats) and the K of heart would give u a little better odds so of course u prefer that card.
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Yes, unless he hits one of his 2 outs, you have, at minimum 10 outs to out draw him . If lets say it was a weaker hand like 2 pair, you would slow down.
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Rethinking it, no, you would not raise infinitley is this situation, and here's why. Yes, you are +EV, and yes, you have a redraw. But, you only have a 7% edge. If you guys read the stud section of SS, you'll remember Chip Reese talks about waiting for a bigger edge. Why risk all your chips on only a 7% edge when it will go up on a any blank to what, 20%?
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No that is wrong.
Because when your edge goes up to 20%, his will go down, making far less likely he will give you the chance to raise infinitely. You have far larger EV infinately raising the flop. JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] |
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But, you only have a 7% edge. [/ QUOTE ] Let's round the numbers to 60%/40%, to make things easier. Out of ten times, you'll win 6, and he will win 4 times. You win 50% more often than him, not 7%. Raise, raise, raise. -- Kevin |
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I actually had this pot the other day, however it was abit different.
Player A- AQs player b- 10 4o player c- AA Board 10s 10h 7s If you knew what the other two players had should you raise infinately with the flush draw? knowing player c has 1 out? but also knowing he will not fold no matter what. |
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I actually had this pot the other day, however it was abit different. Player A- AQs player b- 10 4o player c- AA Board 10s 10h 7s If you knew what the other two players had should you raise infinately with the flush draw? knowing player c has 1 out? but also knowing he will not fold no matter what. [/ QUOTE ] im not going to do the math, but i think with the redraws that the T4o has your equity is not going to be 35% or higher than 33%, so you would want one more player to do this, i think your loosing money against two opponents with these hands, if there was no set of trips, it would be slightly profitable to raise indefinately and for the first hand, yes go all the way |
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