My Nemesis - AJo

Irishboy · #1 02-28-2005, 02:19 PM

If I folded AJo every time it had been dealt to me since I started playing 15/30, my winrate would be 0.5 BB/100 higher.

First orbit, no history with the villain.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Irishboy is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Irishboy raises, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Irishboy raises, SB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Irishboy raises, UTG+1 3-bets

Call down or fold?

stoxtrader · #2 02-28-2005, 02:47 PM

why raise the flop?

Irishboy · #3 02-28-2005, 03:02 PM

I have the probable best hand, I want to raise the flop.

James282 · #4 02-28-2005, 03:05 PM

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I have the probable best hand, I want to raise the flop.

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If this is all you think about when you consider raising, AJo is probably not your problem.
-James

Irishboy · #5 02-28-2005, 03:24 PM

ok, let me elaborate.

1. I have the best hand and I want to get more money in the pot.

2. If I raise and SB calls two bets cold, I can probably assume he is either on a flush draw or he has the 6 and play accordingly. Therefore, I am also raising to gain information.

stoxtrader · #6 02-28-2005, 03:25 PM

I agree you have the *probable* best hand. I think raising is a good way to win the least or lose the most.

Irishboy · #7 02-28-2005, 03:28 PM

You're saying just call down here, no raises? Good point about win least/lose most.

Thanks for the responses.

motorholdem · #8 02-28-2005, 03:30 PM

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why raise the flop?

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Forgetting what is seen on the turn, the flop raise is a good play. You say "why raise the flop"... but based on the board it's clearly the correct play. Look at the baord. UTG+1 limped in pre-flop so if he has an Ace, it's weak. Are you going to just "call" the flop with top pair and a decent kicker?

The only way a post-flop raise would be bad here is if you put UTG+1 on trips with the boarded pair, and you can't make that read of his post-flop play.

spoohunter · #9 02-28-2005, 04:06 PM

There's spades. Raise the flop.

Keep It Simple Stupid.

James282 · #10 02-28-2005, 11:35 PM

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why raise the flop?

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Forgetting what is seen on the turn, the flop raise is a good play. You say "why raise the flop"... but based on the board it's clearly the correct play. Look at the baord. UTG+1 limped in pre-flop so if he has an Ace, it's weak. Are you going to just "call" the flop with top pair and a decent kicker?

The only way a post-flop raise would be bad here is if you put UTG+1 on trips with the boarded pair, and you can't make that read of his post-flop play.

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Raising is not a good play for many reasons, the least of which being fear of trips.
-James