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Old 06-15-2005, 10:23 PM
Gusti Gusti is offline
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Default Is this push insane or standard?

Im not clever enough to make the converter work, so sorry if this hand looks a little weird.

Anyways, theres 4 players left in a 20+2 SnG. Blinds are 150/300 I am the chipleader and first to act. I am dealt Qc 3d and push.

Thought they cant really call me on the bubble without a monster, so I tend to push almost any 2 cards here. Is that overdoing it and does it ever make sense to raise less in that spot?

Thanks for your help guys



UTG (2760)
UTG+ 1(1640)
SB (1885)
BB (1715)

Hero raises (2760) to 2760
Hero is all-In.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Is this push insane or standard?

standard push.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Is this push insane or standard?

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standard push.

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Hardly standard. I would fold here unless the others were really tight.

Now if I had 3500 chips and the others had 1500 each I would push. But this situation is far from that.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Is this push insane or standard?

anyone who calls without a monster u is the biggest idiot on history, u must have some FE.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Is this push insane or standard?

Sure I have some FE. I have that in most hands I play in a SnG. I still don't push any two the first chance I get, especially in a situation like this. I am least likely to push crap UTG and most likely to push crap from SB here.

Hero is in a good seat here. But if called and loses, which is very likely if he is called he is suddenly in desperation mode with 1000 chips and a 300 blind coming in two hands.

Wild aggression on the bubble is a huge leak. Smart aggression is an asset.
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Old 06-15-2005, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: Is this push insane or standard?

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Wild aggression on the bubble is a huge leak.

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you are wrong. while i dont think op is quite in push any two situation quite yet, this push is definately +EV (if only marginally so).


edit: check out microbet's post below, which is imo spot on.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: Is this push insane or standard?

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anyone who calls without a monster u is the biggest idiot on history, u must have some FE.

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Uhhh, you are playing $22 tournaments with idiots, what do you expect?
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:54 AM
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anyone who calls without a monster u is the biggest idiot on history, u must have some FE.

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Hes playing in a 20+2 ... its filled with idiots.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: Is this push insane or standard?

i get called by A4o too frequently when i make moves like this.. the only time it works is when one of the other players is very short.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Is this push insane or standard?

Right, opponents werent especially tight as far as I remember, especially UTG+1 seemed a bit on the loose side. What would be your minimum hand for pushing in this spot or is it mainly opponent-dependent?
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