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huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
since i played this to the flop.. is it an auto-call on the flop?
PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls. Flop: (16 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero folds. Turn: (9.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks. River: (9.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks. Final Pot: 9.50 BB |
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
Your 3 Ace outs are likely to be dominated, someone might already have AK, given the action preflop - so I would fold.
By the way, I think it was really poor that you saw the flop with A8s for 4 bets. Cold calling an UTG raise with A8s can never be right IMO. |
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
This is a fold preflop and I get the feeling you are posting this hand only because you would have won it? The flop here is an easy fold and you are likely to be drawing dead a ton of times. This time, you would get lucky with the cards.
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
i would have folded preflop, villain was raising every other hand. i didn't want to get into detail, so i just asked about the flop part.
where is the hand convertor? |
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
i didn't want to get into detail
We like detail. We suggest you include any important information in your initial post. |
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
Given your read on villian I think 3betting preflop is fine, and folding is fine. Coldcalling is awful.
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
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Your 3 Ace outs are likely to be dominated, someone might already have AK, given the action preflop - so I would fold. By the way, I think it was really poor that you saw the flop with A8s for 4 bets. Cold calling an UTG raise with A8s can never be right IMO. [/ QUOTE ]Thats about as good as it can be said. I'll restress that cold calling an UTG raise with A8s can NEVER be correct. A8 is not a good hand. I would guess that 9 times out of 10 in a pot like this, you aren't even good on the turn. Meaning that you'd have to call a bet on the flop with the intention of getting 2 running cards to sometimes win, and sometimes split. |
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
Folding preflop would have been better.
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
Fold preflop. Twice.
Fold the flop. Don't be results oriented. Next time use the hand converter. |
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Re: huge odds, but no outs, no hand.. or so i thought
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Fold preflop. Twice. [/ QUOTE ] What he said. |
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