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easy value bet on the end or check to induce bluff? 30 bellagio
incredibly good loose passive 30 at bellagio thurs. night.
4 limps. i call in sb with 99. 6 to the flop flop: AA4 with 2 spade. I check EP player bets, button(the only other aggressive player at the table who plays moderately well though tends to spew at time on the turn) raises, I 3-bet and get heads up. Turn: offsuit 7. I bet, call. River: offsuit 6. easy value bet or check to induce a bluff? |
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Re: value bet on the end? 30 bellagio
im not sure what the button could possibly have other than a missed flush draw that you beat here, i think its a check
what do you put him on? |
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Re: value bet on the end? 30 bellagio
i think the mostly likely hand is a smaller pocket pair. I think its unlikely that she raises to knock people out with a good draw.
the problem with the likely hands 55-88 is that 2 of the combos flopped sets. |
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Re: easy value bet on the end or check to induce bluff? 30 bellagio
raise PF. bet/3bet flop if aggro button is the one who raises. bet turn and check/call river
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Re: easy value bet on the end or check to induce bluff? 30 bellagio
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raise PF. bet/3bet flop if aggro button is the one who raises. bet turn and check/call river [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this completely. I like check/call river because I don't want to call a raise here. I think he bluffs/value bets a worse hand enough to make checking and calling better than betting. Because of the raise factor on your value bet. blake |
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Re: easy value bet on the end or check to induce bluff? 30 bellagio
The only thing I like about your hand is the limp pre-flop.
Let it go. 6 people to the flop. One of them probably has an ace. Everyonce in awhile they wont, but you're usually just spewing. You're play isn't AWFUL bad but when it's been bet and raised it's time to let it go. If I played it the way you did and got that far I'd check/call the river for sure. |
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Re: easy value bet on the end or check to induce bluff? 30 bellagio
It is hard for me to believe that we don't have enough equity to bump this one preflop. Can we get some elaboration on the no raise preflop ideas.
Not to mention positive benefits of looking LAG. I agree that the flop is debateable. However, when action gets to us, there is a bet from some dude, an aggressive player with a habit of spewing has raised, and bb is left to act. With a good read on EP that a lead means no ace, I think 3 betting is best. With no read, it is close. |
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Re: easy value bet on the end or check to induce bluff? 30 bellagio
I usually just raise here for value preflop. What do you think makes limping superior?
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Re: easy value bet on the end or check to induce bluff? 30 bellagio
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I usually just raise here for value preflop. What do you think makes limping superior? [/ QUOTE ] i actually think preflop is close, but i like the check, im really not sure what our equity edge is against their possible ranges, but i dont think its too much against all these limpers by sacrificing a minor(i think) edge preflop we have the post-flop advantage of keeping the pot small, making it unprofitable for overs and weak draws to draw should we hit a favorible flop, also not tying us to the pot if we dont |
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Re: easy value bet on the end or check to induce bluff? 30 bellagio
BK, I am pretty sure that the check-3bet on the flop was the right play. here's why.
By the time the betting got to me, 2 players had already been knocked out. I just had to worry about the BB EP bettor and raiser. I know the EP better doesn't have an ace because most players in this game are so ABC that they auto check-call this on the flop. My only concern is the BB. (obviously if he calls 3 cold I have a problem and would shut down the turn.) Given this, why not try to get heads up against the aggressive player? I agree that in a 80+ game where good players tend to fast play alot more hands, this is an easier check-fold |
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