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Huge vag. or well played?
This is vs. a 2+2er, we each know we're 2+2ers, and we see each other at the tables a lot. He's pretty good, a little passive maybe (pre and post numbers over a 2000 hand sample), but I usually don't focus on his play too much as I have him labeled as a 2+2er and work on other reads.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (9.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (5.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (7.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 9.75 BB |
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
I would raise the turn, I dont think AA or KK will 3 bet and AK might call down.
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
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I would raise the turn, I dont think AA or KK will 3 bet and AK might call down. [/ QUOTE ] aa or kk will 3bet. so will jj and 1010? |
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
I think you need at least 1 raise in there somewhere. I'm not sure where the best place would be for it.
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
That's right. There are many more combinations of AK than AA/KK combined.
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
actually, I kinda like it. At least for metagame reasons.
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
"He's pretty good, a little passive maybe"
"I kinda like it. At least for metagame reasons. " My initial reaction is that I would *not* want to call down flop-turn-river vs. a kinda passive player for (among other things) metagame reasons. What is the behavioral modification you are looking to induce? |
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
This is a wierd situation. You could very well be ahead in this situation, so you'd think a raise is in order, and it might help define where you stand.
Raising the flop seems like a bad spot, as there's a chance he 3bets the flop with AK - raising the turn seems like it might be a good spot, but I think AA/KK would 3bet here; you said he knows you are a 2+2er, so he knows that the chance of you 3betting with a 3 or 8 pf is small, so a 3bet here would be in line. If you raise and he 3bets, you can probably get away from this hand for the same 2 bets that you could pay to see a showdown. Do you think AK would fold to a turn raise, or call and fold the river UI? If he calls and folds the river UI, its the same number of bets as if you called down, as I think this line may lead him into believing you had missed overcards as well. All things considered, I think that I like the call down line. While the raise may be for value if he has AK, I think the probability of him folding the river UI and folding to the turn raise causes you to win slightly less than 2 BBs in this spot, and if you get 3bet and fold its the same 2BBs that you can see a showdown with. Following this logic, I like the calldown line, or maybe I'm a huge vag also [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
Raise the river.
Krishan |
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Re: Huge vag. or well played?
this is what i'd change if i'd change anything. how to react to a 3-bet is the only issue, and whether i'm in a spot, where i wan't to deal with that issue.
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