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I normally play 2/4, but the games sucked and i was really just concerned with working off a bonus, so I decided to jump down to .50/1 and play the rest of it off. Not really too concerned with advice here, so i'm showing you the results.
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.5. CO posts a blind of $0.75. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. Flop: (11.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (14.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls. River: (17.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls. Final Pot: 19.25 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> BB has 9h 7d (high card, queen). Hero has As Kc (high card, ace). Outcome: Hero wins 19.25 BB. </font> i think it's a good illustration that when the pot is huge, you should probably call. |
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I'm more concerned with the flop rather than the river.
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I'm folding the flop honestly.
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I'm folding the flop honestly. [/ QUOTE ] |
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should we have folded the flop rather than 3bet? straight draw, flush draw, etc.
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River play is good illustration as Ed Miller likes to note that you should call with AK unimproved when the pot is that big, because there's a better than 1 in 20 chance that the villain is bluffing.
But yea, fold the flop. With that bet/raise action I would say your A and K outs are now dirty. Likely relying on your backdoor draws. |
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River play is good illustration as Ed Miller likes to note that you should call with AK unimproved when the pot is that big, because there's a better than 1 in 20 chance that the villain is bluffing. But yea, fold the flop. With that bet/raise action I would say your A and K outs are now dirty. Likely relying on your backdoor draws. [/ QUOTE ] Ummm... without an incredible read (and even with one), calling the river with Ace High vs a flop raiser/capper is -EV. |
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I normally play 2/4, but the games sucked and i was really just concerned with working off a bonus, so I decided to jump down to .50/1 and play the rest of it off. Not really too concerned with advice here, so i'm showing you the results. ... Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> BB has 9h 7d (high card, queen). Hero has As Kc (high card, ace). Outcome: Hero wins 19.25 BB. </font> i think it's a good illustration that when the pot is huge, you should probably call. [/ QUOTE ] I think it's a good illustration of results-oriented thinking. "I'm not concerned with advice, but I want to show you my neat results. See! The river call was right!" -- The flop 3-bet was probably close to a full SB error under generic cicumstances. In this case, you ran into a LAG and got lucky. Probably 25-30% of the time, only one spade comes in, and MP1 makes his flush. Another 25-30% of the time LAG makes his straight or pairs up to beat you (don't double-count the straight on a flush card). And a good portion of the time, BB's flop cap means real trouble. All of these combine to making you lose a good chunk of the first SB from your 3-bet, and then another good chunk when you're compelled to call the cap. It's probably a very thin flop call at best, and more likely it's a -EV call because of your reverse implied odds. You played horribly and won. Congratulations. |
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Did a flop fold ever occur to you? A bet, raise, and 2 cold calls....
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I think a flop 3 bet is awful, but I don't think it's that bad to call the two with the overs and back door nut flush draw. I don't think peaking at the turn is bad here.
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