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River Value Bet?
Here is a very marginal one.
Villain here is a 65/8/1.2 fish - one of the rare LP-A types. He has overplayed his hands before, such as limping in AK then raising twice on a 636 flop (to his credit, he did win the hand UI vs A7). Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (3 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls. Turn: (4.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. River: (6.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero... |
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Re: River Value Bet?
Bet/fold. He'll probably call with everything he'd bet with and maybe a bit more.
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Re: River Value Bet?
yeah thats an easy bet
youre probably behind when called but you cant really check/fold here and check/calling just lets him put in money when hes ahead |
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Re: River Value Bet?
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yeah thats an easy bet youre probably behind when called but you cant really check/fold here and check/calling just lets him put in money when hes ahead [/ QUOTE ] So where is the value from betting if I am behind when he calls? |
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Re: River Value Bet?
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[ QUOTE ] yeah thats an easy bet youre probably behind when called but you cant really check/fold here and check/calling just lets him put in money when hes ahead [/ QUOTE ] So where is the value from betting if I am behind when he calls? [/ QUOTE ] if youre a 2-1 dog to have the best hand when the action goes bet call and a 3-1 dog to have the best hand when the action goes check bet call, then you should bet out |
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Re: River Value Bet?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] yeah thats an easy bet youre probably behind when called but you cant really check/fold here and check/calling just lets him put in money when hes ahead [/ QUOTE ] So where is the value from betting if I am behind when he calls? [/ QUOTE ] if youre a 2-1 dog to have the best hand when the action goes bet call and a 3-1 dog to have the best hand when the action goes check bet call, then you should bet out [/ QUOTE ] How did you come up with those numbers? What makes it more likely I am behind when it goes check-call - could he not attempt to bluff me? Could he not be value-betting A7 or a worse 8 or a smaller PP? |
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Re: River Value Bet?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] yeah thats an easy bet youre probably behind when called but you cant really check/fold here and check/calling just lets him put in money when hes ahead [/ QUOTE ] So where is the value from betting if I am behind when he calls? [/ QUOTE ] if youre a 2-1 dog to have the best hand when the action goes bet call and a 3-1 dog to have the best hand when the action goes check bet call, then you should bet out [/ QUOTE ] How did you come up with those numbers? What makes it more likely I am behind when it goes check-call - could he not attempt to bluff me? Could he not be value-betting A7 or a worse 8 or a smaller PP? [/ QUOTE ] the actual numbers dont matter, im just illustrating a point if he has a worse made hand and you check, then hes usually checking behind. hes not always checking behind, thats why you cant check/fold. if you bet, hes calling with anything |
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Re: River Value Bet?
Bet/fold. If you hesitated on the river, possibly bet/call as villain may pick up on the tell.
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Re: River Value Bet?
Err yellowjack if we're really worried about villain exploiting a tell we should hesitate, check the river and induce the bluff. Bet/calling is spewing in this situation.
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Re: River Value Bet?
Alternatively, our hesitation then betting can grab us an extra bet a hand we beat.
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