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10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
It's about midnight Saturday night and our table just recently got short-handed when most of the fish left. Since then the table has become very aggressive pre-flop (but mostly the two players to my immediate right).
Both MP1 and MP2 are fairly straightforward players and probably have numbers like 30/10/1. MP1 bought in for 20BB, and currently has 35BB in his stack. My table image: I've been at the table for four hours and I haven't folded much to turn raises, but I have shown down a few bluffs since we got short-handed. I've been quite aggressive post-flop, but have been losing a lot at showdown and am currently down 10BB. Live 10/20 at the trop <font color="blue">(10 max, 6 handed)</font> Pre-flop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="red">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="gray">2 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="red">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls. Flop: (16.67 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font> <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="red">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls. Turn: (12.8 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, Hero calls for time and? A 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is an obvious possibility as a hand that cold-calls the raise on the flop and then raises the turn. I'm drawing dead to it. I guess QJ is possible as well. The question is, am I ever facing a semi-bluff (flush draw) or a hand like AT? or perhaps two pair or a set (that I at least have outs against)? It's a 16BB pot, so I'm getting 17-2 on a calldown. |
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Re: 10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
It's a pretty easy fold based on your hand reading. I agree that a 7 is most likely. I don't think MP1 would be smart enough to think "ok I have a flush draw, but hey the OESD hit..maybe I can push him off".
[ QUOTE ] Hero calls for time [/ QUOTE ] In a live ring game? lol |
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Re: 10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
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[ QUOTE ] Hero calls for time [/ QUOTE ] In a live ring game? lol [/ QUOTE ] People calling 'time' in live ring games isn't all the uncommon at my local casinos. |
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Re: 10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
you should have check-raised the flop to face the limpers with 2 cold.
as played, easy turn fold. |
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Re: 10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
While the 7 is an "obvious" card, there are other cards like AT or T9, spade flush, etc. against which you have substantial outs or are ahead of. I'd call this down unless a third spade falls, particularly a card like A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Re: 10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
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While the 7 is an "obvious" card, there are other cards like AT or T9, spade flush, etc. against which you have substantial outs or are ahead of. I'd call this down unless a third spade falls, particularly a card like A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] in my experience with live play this is never a hand like AT -- T9 is best case and a bit of a stretch. whenever I play live this is always QJ/7x/TT. even if he has spades or AT he has 5-12 outs and when we're behind we are toasted I think I would fold this. I'd call it down at the 5/10 on party though. |
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Re: 10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
Wouldn't A7 fold preflop? is 10/20 super laggy then?
I initially think of calling down, maybe hes on A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 hasn't really been a strong consideration but i guess 10/20 plays alot differently to .50/1 [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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Re: 10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
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Wouldn't A7 fold preflop? is 10/20 super laggy [/ QUOTE ] this is live, it isn't online. most 10/20 live players play like .5/1 party, so yeah A7 is definitely possible |
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Re: 10/20: KK in a protected pot against a raise
i think it's a fold live.
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I called down and MP1 tabled T9o for top 2 pair.
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