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AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
9 handed, villian ($96) is loose and will raise frequently.
hero ($85)is button with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] preflop: villian calls .50, fold, MP calls .50, 3 fold, hero raises to $2, SB calls 1.75, villian re-raises to $5.75, hero calls 4.25, SB calls 4.25 pot ($19.75) flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] SB moves all in $1.95, villian raises to $7.25, hero re-raises to $25, villian calls $17.75 total pot ($81.70) turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]) villian moves all in $67, hero has $55 left. call? i am figuring this to be an immediate call, I would like some feedback, thanks. |
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
Villian limp re-raised. Has he done this before? Against a sane opponent this is a muck with any non pocket pair.
I would also not have raised two limpers with AJs. I would have snuck into the pot cheap with a limp. The turn is an instant call given your stack size in relation to the pot and the flop was played fine given the preflop action. |
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
the villian was an agressive player and fairly loose, and was limping with some hands OOP. People limp with anything from any position at .25/.50 NL, and if you aren't raising with premium hands on the button after a couple callers, you should really start.
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
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the villian was an agressive player and fairly loose, and was limping with some hands OOP. People limp with anything from any position at .25/.50 NL, and if you aren't raising with premium hands on the button after a couple callers, you should really start. [/ QUOTE ] Raising AJs in this spot (which is not a premium hand in my mind) is only going to bloat the pot, making it difficult to play a one pair hand properly. Your opponents will be making the same post flop mistakes in smaller pots than they will in larger ones (indeed, these mistakes are highlighted due to the much smaller pot size). In limit this is a clear raise for value but in no limit there are other more important considerations, notably pot control. |
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
Position + betting impetus > pot control, IMO.
2 limpers I agree with the raise. 3 limpers, call. |
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
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Raising AJs in this spot (which is not a premium hand in my mind) is only going to bloat the pot, making it difficult to play a one pair hand properly. Your opponents will be making the same post flop mistakes in smaller pots than they will in larger ones (indeed, these mistakes are highlighted due to the much smaller pot size). In limit this is a clear raise for value but in no limit there are other more important considerations, notably pot control. [/ QUOTE ] This would be a problem when OOP. Playing one pair hands is much easier when you have position. You will often get better hands to fold to your CB when you bet the flop. If called, you have position the rest of the way. I think raising here becomes suboptimal if you are noticing people limping in with hands like AQ and AK from early and middle position. Otherwise, it is fine IMO. |
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
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[ QUOTE ] Raising AJs in this spot (which is not a premium hand in my mind) is only going to bloat the pot, making it difficult to play a one pair hand properly. Your opponents will be making the same post flop mistakes in smaller pots than they will in larger ones (indeed, these mistakes are highlighted due to the much smaller pot size). In limit this is a clear raise for value but in no limit there are other more important considerations, notably pot control. [/ QUOTE ] This would be a problem when OOP. Playing one pair hands is much easier when you have position. You will often get better hands to fold to your CB when you bet the flop. If called, you have position the rest of the way. I think raising here becomes suboptimal if you are noticing people limping in with hands like AQ and AK from early and middle position. Otherwise, it is fine IMO. [/ QUOTE ] this was the first hand in an hour I had seen AK limp reraised, I thought he might have AK when I called the re-raise, but since we each had over 150BB, +position, I called the extra 4.75. |
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
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I would also not have raised two limpers with AJs. I would have snuck into the pot cheap with a limp. [/ QUOTE ] I don't agree with this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with raising your button here. I would argue that you could have raised more. As played, I call the turn. Against most players, you will be looking at an overpair here, KK or AA and it turns into a math question. Against a maniac who reraises frequently, he has a wider range than that. You may very well be ahead here. If not, you are drawing live to 9 hearts and possibly another 3 aces. |
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
Villain seems to be representing a monster with the LRR PF. Being loose, he could have any pockets who knows.
His flop raise was weak. Is he trying to take you off your hand or get value for a monster? With the now protected main pot, his raise is really confusing and I have to believe it's for value as opposed to put you off your hand. When he called your raise to $25 on the flop, you have to figure TPTK isn't scaring him so I think you're toast. That's noting that you did not say "loose, bad", just "loose" about him. You obviously cannot get him to fold out now, so its all reads. I think you're dead to an overpair or a set. You've only got $50 left into a $130 pot... this is not an instacall, but the pot odds aren't bad. I think you're beat, but I'm not sure i'm 2.6666 : 1 sure and you do have outs. |
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Re: AJs, flop top pair + flush draw,.25/.50 NL, big pot
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Villain seems to be representing a monster with the LRR PF. Being loose, he could have any pockets who knows. His flop raise was weak. Is he trying to take you off your hand or get value for a monster? With the now protected main pot, his raise is really confusing and I have to believe it's for value as opposed to put you off your hand. When he called your raise to $25 on the flop, you have to figure TPTK isn't scaring him so I think you're toast. That's noting that you did not say "loose, bad", just "loose" about him. You obviously cannot get him to fold out now, so its all reads. I think you're dead to an overpair or a set. You've only got $50 left into a $130 pot... this is not an instacall, but the pot odds aren't bad. I think you're beat, but I'm not sure i'm 2.6666 : 1 sure and you do have outs. [/ QUOTE ] he had successfully raised me off of a couple CBs on missed overcards earlier, and I figured he was trying to do the same here. I took into account the limp re-raise, but I figured he would have raised more on the flop with an overpair, trying to make flush draws pay. |
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