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Passive line against LAG.
villain is 44/18/5 after 40 hands
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx MP3 ($387.40) CO ($152.05) Button ($92.05) SB ($167.30) BB ($109) Hero ($196.45) UTG+1 ($180) UTG+2 ($197) MP1 ($332.05) MP2 ($266.80) Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero calls $6. Flop: ($31) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9. Turn: ($49) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25. River: ($99) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $75</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: $174 Where did I go wrong? |
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
probably facing a set or a made flush.
any reason just a c/c on the flop? |
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
A raise accomplishes nothing, keeping the pot small on this flop is crucial OOP.
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
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A raise accomplishes nothing, keeping the pot small on this flop is crucial OOP. [/ QUOTE ] true.. why do you have a problem with how you played the hand? seems like you made the right moves. |
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
Something didn't feel right about the turn, I thought maybe it was debatable.
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
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Something didn't feel right about the turn, I thought maybe it was debatable. [/ QUOTE ] seems like he is value betting his made hand on the turn. |
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
This is a bad board to play passively on, IMO. There's just way to much there that already has you beat or that can outdraw you.
Villain's bets on the flop and turn are perfectly sized value bets if he's drawing to the a big flush - if you fold he wins the pot; if you call he's getting 3:1. He could also be weak-betting with a flopped monster. Or he could have AA and be afraid of AT. Lots of different scenerios, and by just check/calling you have no idea where you're at. That large turn bet could be a value bet, or could be a bluff based on your weak calls on the earlier street. The way I play it, you have two choices: either raise the flop and re-evaluate based on how villain reacts, or just give this up right away. Personally, I think the decision is somewhat of a coin-flip and which way I go depends what on several factors that you didn't include: your table image, how often villain's been folding to your raises, and how often villain goes to showdown. |
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
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The way I play it, you have two choices: either raise the flop and re-evaluate based on how villain reacts, or just give this up right away. [/ QUOTE ] Ok so you raise, he calls, you? |
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
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Ok so you raise, he calls, you? [/ QUOTE ] What's he do on the turn? That's the important part now. If he fires again on the turn, I'm gone. If he checks, I bet 3/4 of the pot. But to be honest, unless he goes to showdown a lot, I don't think he's going to just call here. He's going to fold or raise. If he has less than 2 pair, he's folding - that straight is just too frightening. If he has 2 pair or bigger, he's raising, and probably pushing. I think the most important thing to consider is what he's 3-betting PF with. If he was a solid player he'd have JJ+ or AK. You'd be splitting at best and most likely crushed. Even giving him a very wide range of 99+ or any two broadway cards (which is more likely), you're in pretty deep fertilizer. 90% of this beats you. Edit: I just Poker Stoved this. You're actually a coinflip with this range. But you're still very vulnerable. The main purpose of the raise on the flop is to snap off his c/b with a small pocket pair. Which is why it's somewhat of a toss-up decission - it all depends on how likely he is to fold with a hand other than the straight. |
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Re: Passive line against LAG.
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[ QUOTE ] Ok so you raise, he calls, you? [/ QUOTE ] What's he do on the turn? That's the important part now. If he fires again on the turn, I'm gone. If he checks, I bet 3/4 of the pot. But to be honest, unless he goes to showdown a lot, I don't think he's going to just call here. He's going to fold or raise. If he has less than 2 pair, he's folding - that straight is just too frightening. If he has 2 pair or bigger, he's raising, and probably pushing. I think the most important thing to consider is what he's 3-betting PF with. If he was a solid player he'd have JJ+ or AK. You'd be splitting at best and most likely crushed. Even giving him a very wide range of 99+ or any two broadway cards (which is more likely), you're in pretty deep fertilizer. 90% of this beats you. Edit: I just Poker Stoved this. You're actually a coinflip with this range. But you're still very vulnerable. The main purpose of the raise on the flop is to snap off his c/b with a small pocket pair. Which is why it's somewhat of a toss-up decission - it all depends on how likely he is to fold with a hand other than the straight. [/ QUOTE ] I'm OOP.. |
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