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10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
Villain is 56/42/5 over 89 hands.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 2.75 BB This hand left me feeling icky. I didn't want to take Q-hi to showdown. I also knew this opponent wasn't going to just give up because I called the flop. I also am not confident in making him fold a better hand. Surf |
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
how do you play if you flop a pair or a draw? do you think you make enough to offset the pf call and flop fold?
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
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how do you play if you flop a pair or a draw? do you think you make enough to offset the pf call and flop fold? [/ QUOTE ] I think I know what you mean, but I'm sure you realize that the flop fold is zero EV. I make sure plenty of bets go in against this guy when I have a pair and I play like a passive little bitch when I have a draw. With stats like that I figure he is quite willing to raise and reraise regardless of his cards and that is not my idea of a good time when I don't have a pair. I think the implied odds against a guy like this are tremendous and it is perfectly affordable to defend liberally and then fold liberally until you have showdown value and then PUNISH him. Cartman |
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
This is fine.
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
Tough hand. Sometimes I just call down, even with Q-high. Sometimes I fold the flop.
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
I've grown accustomed to folding a good portion of the time in these situations.
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
Im not folding here. U have a super aggressive player raising preflop and u have Overs and a backdoor str8. If he wasnt insane postflop, Id CR. But since he is I think this is a call. If u hit a T or a Q u are getting paid off big.
The game is 4 handed. Ur hand is unlikely to be dominated. You have overs to the board w/ a Bd str8 against a super agro. = call, at least. |
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
Domination is not likely and implied odds are great. Checkcall flop. Fold turn if it isnt Q, J, T or 9.
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
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Domination is not likely and implied odds are great. Checkcall flop. Fold turn if it isnt Q, J, T or 9. [/ QUOTE ] Hey kiddo, a J or 9 only gives me a gutshot. I need 6.8:1 to hit a pair and I'm only getting 5.5:1. Are implied odds sufficient to make this up? Also, if we call the turn w/ overs + a gutshot we are getting 4.25:1 to call and hit a 7-10 outer? I feel like we give up alot by folding when we miss because of insufficient pot odds. Surf |
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Re: 10/20: blind defense round 5, part 3 - QTo
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I need 6.8:1 to hit a pair and I'm only getting 5.5:1. Are implied odds sufficient to make this up? [/ QUOTE ] Easily. Think about this way: What will happen if I hit pair on turn? 1) You will almost always be ahead. 2) He will almost never fold. 3) You will probably get 2BB out of him. [ QUOTE ] a J or 9 only gives me a gutshot. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, its marginal to call turn (pretty EVneutral I would guess), but against a player this aggressive, raising 42% preflop - I think u should call with 10 outs for straight or toppair on turn. If u hit u will often get one more BB out of him. Also there are some chance - I guess - he will check behind on river with worse hand (I dont know this of course, maybe there isnt). |
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