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I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
This one was too easy/hard/low-limit/full-ring for the HUSH guys, and it floated off of the second page with no responses about 8 hours ago. So I thought I'd crosspost it for my homies. I'm interested in everyone's opinions here because I think the way I played this hand is going to be hated much more here than over at HUSH.
edit: This is the fourth hand I've played with Villain. Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. 3 folds, Hero raises, 4 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls. Flop: (6.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players) BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls. Turn: (6.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players) BB bets, Hero calls. River: (8.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players) BB bets, Hero... So two questions: 1) Is the flop raise dumb? 2) Having made said dumb flop raise, is a river call dumb? |
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
YO REDD: READS? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] no, reads, he could be doing anything.
hate the flop raise if he is aggressive. you'll get 3 bet here a lot by KQ, AQ, AK and called down by hands that beat you that'll wait 'til more expensive streets to c/r. all that to say: call/call/call down IMO. edit: ack, poo! you edited your post to say you've only played 4 hands against the villain, so no reads....i still think i'll stick by my previous plan to call down until i see a scarier broadway card. |
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
[ QUOTE ]
YO REDD: READS? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] no, reads, he could be doing anything. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, sorry, I forgot to add them in from the crosspost. But there's not much to add, see the edit. This guy's an unknown at this point. [ QUOTE ] all that to say: call/call/call down IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Only problem with this is that if I am ahead I'm giving a worse hand with 10 outs cheap cards. Could this be a 'wait until the turn to raise' situation? Raise any non-broadway? |
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
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Only problem with this is that if I am ahead I'm giving a worse hand with 10 outs cheap cards. Could this be a 'wait until the turn to raise' situation? Raise any non-broadway? [/ QUOTE ] i thought about that line, but w/o a read, i usually am leary about using this line- that's just my personal preference, so i can't really say it is optimal or not. i guess i'll say this: if you're going to raise, the turn is a better spot IMO than the flop- how 'bout that? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
I don't hate the flop raise if the plan is to take a free card on the turn. Getting 3-bet blows, but I'd call there and on the turn too -- you've probably got 6 clean outs. You can discount the 9's by one if you think he might have JJ/TT, and you're still OK to call.
A river call looks unnecessary to me, unless you have a read that says this guy's really aggressive, and won't miss a bet with something like an unimproved AK. If he doesn't have at least AJ here I'd be pretty surprised (AA-TT) looks more likely). |
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
i don't think villain has JJ or TT. and i think i have to discount our 9s for the possibility of KQ and an aggressively played OESD + OCs.
i've become very cautious when trying a free card move unless i've seen villain willing to give it up first. i think it is too obvious and used too often. overcards are definitely 3-betting this flop (IMO) to not only hope for their outs/straight to come in, but to represent a bigger hand than they have. ...obviously this is based on a read, but just how i think about it. |
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
Yes and yes. And this is 9 handed so the HUSH guys probably ignored it because it was in the wrong forum.
-DeathDonkey |
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
edit due to confusion:
[ QUOTE ] Yes and yes. [/ QUOTE ] Are these to the two questions in the OP? [ QUOTE ] And this is 9 handed so the HUSH guys probably ignored it because it was in the wrong forum. [/ QUOTE ] But it was HU for the whole hand? |
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
if they don't see a "6" next to handed or a "0" next to your stake numbers, it is kaka [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Re: I\'m a fish every time I flop 99 w/gutshot HU
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if they don't see a "6" next to handed or a "0" next to your stake numbers, it is kaka [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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