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Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
And I don't mean New Hampshire.
Personally, I don't pay much attention to the chat, and I tend to assume that people are being polite unless they make it prefectly clear that they aren't, which all too many whiners are perfectly happy to make clear. [In my book, you have to read the potential of the board to the end. Ranting self-proclaimed 'experts' who cap my raises because they consider their simplifying assumptions to be the Commandments of Poker probably contribute as much to my pots as newbie fish)] Sarcasm and other "tone of speech" are notoriously difficult to read from strangers on the Internet. I've always felt that a courtesy remark is just that, and that people who read them as sarcasm are often just projecting their own inner hostility on to a blank remark. However, I've read many posters who talk about saying "nh" when they are too livid to construct complete cords. Do I simply misunderstand the etiquette? I couldn't care less if someone is pissed that I won a hand. However, I do try to be polite, so I'll toss in a "nh" to show no hard feelings when I lose to a monster, and reply with aa "ty" if someone tosses a quick "nh" to me. I like a chatty game (though I won't discuss the game itself) and while I don't mind profiting from someone else's tilt (discipline is a big part of the game), I don't try to provoke it. If it was all about the Benjamins, I'd put those extra hours into my profession (which I love). Poker is supposed to be a pleasant change of pace. So... do you read "nh" as a geniune appreciation of your winning quads, or a skillfully slowplayed hand -- or as an indication that I am tracing your IP and will dream tonight of taking a Louisville slugger to your dentalwork? |
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
I type "nh" when I win a big pot.
Is this considered rude or sarcastic?. |
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
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I type "nh" when I win a big pot. Is this considered rude or sarcastic?. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
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I type "nh" when I win a big pot. Is this considered rude or sarcastic?. [/ QUOTE ] I go one better. I type "nh" and "ty". [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
Sort of off topic but this came up in conversation yesterday.
In B&M you hear people say "nice hand" but it sounds insincere when it is said to a weak player who gets lucky with a bad hand. A friend of mine is one of the best and most well liked mid-limit players in LA. He suggests saying "nice pot" instead of "nice hand" because it doesn't sound sarcastic. ~ Rick |
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
90% of the time I say it, it is sarcastic
Nothing puts me on tilt like someone not realizing this and replying back saying TY to an obviously bad hand. |
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
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90% of the time I say it, it is sarcastic Nothing puts me on tilt like someone not realizing this and replying back saying TY to an obviously bad hand. [/ QUOTE ] I seem to get this alot when I've done something aggressive and correct in a huge pot. (And off course when I do something utterly stupid and suck out. Which primarily happens in tourneys.) Followed by a "way to raise your gutshot on the flop fish!" after my sincere "ty". I can rant here that I didn't raise my gutshot. I raised my double gutshot with a backdoor flush draw, and I did it for value! I've never fallen for the temptation to say this at the table though. |
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
See, there's an art to this if you are really bored.
A month or two ago I'm a bit tired, but not tired enough to sleep, so I fire up one table on Party and play a bit. The same situation occurs (but with an OESD) and after I win villain goes on tilt. (It was a huge 25BBish pot) Villain: nh Me: ty V: i wuz being sarcastic you lucky ##### Me: ty V: wtf? you suck Me: ty for your money V: you keep raising with nothing and calling down ill win that pot every time Me: then why did I win this time? V: cuz you got lucky. Me: Oh, well you'll have to win your money back all those other times. V: oh I will, calling with NOTHING, nice runner runner. Me: ty V: (long rant about how much I suck, is completely on tilt, etc.) Now, I saw a chance to do something amazing. I explained in great detail how my play was absolutely correct, and how I had odds for everything I did. Sounds stupid, right? NO! Why? Because after I did that and got villains attention I throw this in. Me: Shame you didn't 3 bet that flop (he had bottom pair which made two pair on the turn, and had terrible relative position to the field, so this wasn't at all an example of SSHE's raising with second best hand to improve odds) because I would have had to fold. V: really? Me: Yeah, I wouldn't have had odds to draw. V: Hmm.. then I would've only lost 2 bets to __________ (who had a set) instead of 8 to you... I'll have to remember that. That night, a maniac was born. And I know this because I buddy listed him and played with him quite a bit under different skin accounts, laughing at how much crazier his play was, desperate to protect his horrible hand against straight draws. All the other fish had ceased paying attention too, so there was no danger of educating them. It was amazing. |
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
100% +/- 5%
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Re: Hiow often is \"nh\" sarcastic?
Any time I get outlucked obviously it is a sarcastic "nh" coming from me.
But generally I show whether it is genuine or not by adding a short phrase that most of you would probably not like me to use but here goes... wow, nh, it takes some skill to win with those cards That's my sarcastic, "how could you cold call that crap pre-flop and call a flop raise having missed, then catch runner runner for some miracle monster that steals my pot?", phrase. If all I write is "nh." Generally that is when I mean it. Or if the hand was absolutely atrocius I am just too steamed to get anymore out of my keyboard than nh before the damn thing gets thrown out the window! |
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