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What hands would you fold here?
Villian is 15 VP$IP 8 PFR 2.75 AF after 73 hands
Table is tight Hero is 18 VP$IP 12 PFR 8 AF through 73 hands Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP3 with ?,?. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (4.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls. River: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds. Final Pot: 9.75 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> MP2 doesn't show. Hero has ?,?. Outcome: Hero wins 9.75 BB. </font> If you are villian what hands do you consider folding here? and why? What did hero have? |
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
I would think he took a stab on the river with two overcards like AK, AQ, or KQ. Seems like an odd spot to bluff though...
Hero I would assume had a big pair or top set and possibly TT. |
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
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...and possibly TT. [/ QUOTE ] You would really raise the river with TT in Hero's spot? |
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
Hero looks to be playing a high pocket pair JJ-AA.
Villain looks like he's a 2+2er taking a WA/WB line with something like TT so you can't check the river behind with overs. |
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
If I'm the villan I would only raise with AK or AKs.
I put you on at least AKs, because you re-raised me. Now, I have overcards on the flop and the pot is small (3BB). I would have folded there. If I had a pair say TT, then... I don't know. I have an overpair, so I guess I would check and call all the way. I don't understand the Villian's bet on the turn. He can't bluff here because he was re-raised on the flop. His opponent must at least have AKs or better. To me its a simple check, call. Villian was obviously not thinking about what happened previously in the hand (a difficult thing to do I know in the Heat of Battle). Best regards, Red |
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
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If you are villian what hands do you consider folding here? and why? What did hero have? [/ QUOTE ] Hero probably has AA-JJ or AJs. 77 isn't unreasonable but would certainly be jarring. Note hero's pfr is ~12. Given the preflop raise, Villain probably has TT-99 or maybe even KJs/QJs and threw a changeup preflop? I can't imagine folding TPTK or an overpair here with no flush draws or any pfr'd straight draw. |
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
bump for more replies before results
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls. <font color="blue"> I think villain would cap AA, KK, and QQ.</font> Flop: (7.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls. <font color="blue"> I think this flop missed him unless he holds JJ, AJs, AJo.</font> Turn: (4.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls. <font color="blue"> After he does not raise here I think he is also playing overcards like me. Maybe AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo.</font> River: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds. <font color="blue"> If he checks here I was going to bet. So when he bets I raise as I find it more likely he is making a tricky play to get me to fold if I have overcards than him holding JJ. Which is the only hand I think this guy bets here to stop me checking through. If he reraises I call the bet.</font> Final Pot: 9.75 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> MP2 doesn't show. Hero has Kc Ah (high card, ace). Outcome: Hero wins 9.75 BB. </font> I don’t know why I am so confident in this situation. I am worried my play could be very bad and since I won I will continue doing this. So speak up if this is the wrong play or I have the wrong reasons for doing it. Thanks |
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
Can't really say I love your play here.
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Re: What hands would you fold here?
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Can't really say I love your play here. [/ QUOTE ] I am going to think about it some more. It will be hard to change since I won the hand and I don't understand the reasons this is a bad play. I am open to the idea I am wrong here. I just need to understand why. That's why I asked what hands do you fold here if you are villian. |
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