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The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
I know this isn't the right forum for this, but since this is where I regularly post, and I know I have some fellow pokerstars players here, I thought I'd indulge.
I switched because I wanted to use Gametime with live updating. What an amazing program. Most importantly, there is a marked difference in the quality of the players (I play $25NL). It may be too short term to be statistically significant, but in the short weekend, it seems quite different. DIFFERENCES- *Much looser. I couldn't believe I was at a table where multiple players were seeing over %70 of all hands. You really don't see that so often at Pokerstars. Furthermore, I had players calling raises with 2-5os. There are fish at PS, but not quite as many. * They WILL pay you off. If you hit a set, they'll call you with inside straight draws. I bet $50 into an $18 pot and got called by top pair. You just don't get that as much, even at $25NL on PS. * This may be a product of the blind change, but the standard raise for many seems much higher. So many people open with $2 (8xbb) (as opposed to PS where 3-5bb seems standard). At many tables, this makes it more difficult to play speculative hands since many of them have 1/2 the buy in giving poor pot odds for more speculative hands. *a lot more bluffing. Really, terribly bad bluffing. *Less People seem to be able to read hands. On The river, there's a pair on the board, someone raises, someone else reraises... 2 other people call... and none of the callers can see the reraiser has a full house. * The pots are larger (on average). People have larger pf raises, and there's much more (misplaced) aggression, the pots get larger. * A lot more all ins. People seem to push a hell of a lot more. On less then premium hands too. * players seem to have LESS ability to let go of a hand. People can't lay down AK... even with nothing. THE BAD *I don't care for the interface as much. You have to type in your bet since I find the slider awkward. *no player pictures. (the photos make it easier to remember players) *** No where does it say the current total in the pot. I find this odd. If you want to figure out pot odds, you have to add up everyone's bets yourself. Last note... Bless you Party/pokertracker. I'm on one table with (autorated players) 2 fishes, 1 calling station and a bunch of tight passives (when they raise... I fold. Its easy). I've been averaging 185bb per 100. ALMOST ALL OF IT FROM THE SAME 3 PEOPLE. After 2 hours, they haven't changed the habits one iota. See you regulars at the tables! |
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
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I know this isn't the right forum for this, but since this is where I regularly post, and I know I have some fellow pokerstars players here, I thought I'd indulge. I switched because I wanted to use Gametime with live updating. What an amazing program. Most importantly, there is a marked difference in the quality of the players (I play $25NL). It may be too short term to be statistically significant, but in the short weekend, it seems quite different. DIFFERENCES- *Much looser. I couldn't believe I was at a table where multiple players were seeing over %70 of all hands. You really don't see that so often at Pokerstars. Furthermore, I had players calling raises with 2-5os. There are fish at PS, but not quite as many. * They WILL pay you off. If you hit a set, they'll call you with inside straight draws. I bet $50 into an $18 pot and got called by top pair. You just don't get that as much, even at $25NL on PS. * This may be a product of the blind change, but the standard raise for many seems much higher. So many people open with $2 (8xbb) (as opposed to PS where 3-5bb seems standard). At many tables, this makes it more difficult to play speculative hands since many of them have 1/2 the buy in giving poor pot odds for more speculative hands. *a lot more bluffing. Really, terribly bad bluffing. *Less People seem to be able to read hands. On The river, there's a pair on the board, someone raises, someone else reraises... 2 other people call... and none of the callers can see the reraiser has a full house. * The pots are larger (on average). People have larger pf raises, and there's much more (misplaced) aggression, the pots get larger. * A lot more all ins. People seem to push a hell of a lot more. On less then premium hands too. * players seem to have LESS ability to let go of a hand. People can't lay down AK... even with nothing. THE BAD *I don't care for the interface as much. You have to type in your bet since I find the slider awkward. *no player pictures. (the photos make it easier to remember players) *** No where does it say the current total in the pot. I find this odd. If you want to figure out pot odds, you have to add up everyone's bets yourself. Last note... Bless you Party/pokertracker. I'm on one table with (autorated players) 2 fishes, 1 calling station and a bunch of tight passives (when they raise... I fold. Its easy). I've been averaging 185bb per 100. ALMOST ALL OF IT FROM THE SAME 3 PEOPLE. After 2 hours, they haven't changed the habits one iota. See you regulars at the tables! [/ QUOTE ] Why would anyone want to play anywhere but party now? |
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
"Why would anyone want to play anywhere but party now?"
I can't believe I waited so long to switch. Though I'm glad I learned on Pokerstars. Playing on pokerstars taught me to be tighter and more cautious. Though there were 'fish', there were enough good/tricky players to keep you somewhat on your toes. Switching to Party is almost like a completely different game. A more crazy profitable game. |
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
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Why would anyone want to play anywhere but party now? [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
I cashed out of PokerStars last week and Ive been playing there for 3 years.
I think Stars and UB are going to be in serious trouble very soon. I still like Prima quite a bit, but Party is a very very large fish tank and the variance is much lower now that the blinds are lower and its not an all in fest. |
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
"and its not an all in fest" I don't think half the players have figured out that the lower blinds mean a change in style. I've seen more 'all ins' this weekend on Party then I would on a week at pokerstars.
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
Party NL is the greatest. I played over at Stars for a little while and just found it aggravating. Nobody would pay me off! I quickly switched back to Party, and I'm never leaving.
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
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I've seen more 'all ins' this weekend on Party then I would on a week at pokerstars. [/ QUOTE ] I think I have started my real money play at the wrong site. It's all Phil and Annie's fault! |
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
I find the potsize thing pretty easy, but I play live (home game) a decent amount.
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Re: The Switch From Pokerstars to Party.... (no hand)
I hate the lame-o's that open raise 8-16 BB ... all you can do is wait for a monster and drill em...
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