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Flush + pair on turn...your move
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> UTG+1 (t1154) UTG+2 (t893) MP1 (t765) MP2 (t518) <font color="#C00000">MP3 (t1080)</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero (t960)</font> Button (t960) SB (t1385) BB (t1310) UTG (t975) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t75</font>, Hero calls t75, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60. Flop: (t310) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350, BB folds, UTG+1 folds. Turn: (t1010) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t655 (All-In)</font>, Hero ... Curious on the odds and what you would put this player on. My read is fairly aggressive with flopped pairs / especially with his raises. |
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Re: Flush + pair on turn...your move
Odds to a ten-high flush for you? It looks like you don't have odds to call.
My guess is high PP... QQ. Is there a reason you didn't fold this preflop? Slim |
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Re: Flush + pair on turn...your move
Fold pre flop....okay you called.
Fold on the flop...okay you called. Muck on the turn. What does this guy have, I would say flush draw or AJ maybe AJ with the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I would also like to know why you stayed in this hand so long? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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Re: Flush + pair on turn...your move
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> UTG+1 (t1154) UTG+2 (t893) MP1 (t765) MP2 (t518) <font color="#C00000">MP3 (t1080)</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero (t960)</font> Button (t960) SB (t1385) BB (t1310) UTG (t975) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t75</font>, Hero calls t75, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60. Flop: (t310) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350, BB folds, UTG+1 folds. Turn: (t1010) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t655 (All-In)</font>, Hero ... Curious on the odds and what you would put this player on. My read is fairly aggressive with flopped pairs / especially with his raises. [/ QUOTE ] Well your all in if you call and the pots laying you almost 3/1.(1545/535) I put him on a high pocket pair (QQ-AA or AKo). With the pot size bet, looks like he's trying to protect against draws. If another club falls here or even a T, you might be good here. I don't like your play up to this point , but your practically pot committed and will be short stacked after calling off 425t (44% of your chips [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) only to fold. Husker |
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Re: Flush + pair on turn...your move
I would have mucked pre flop. Since you didn't, there is 300 in the pot on the flop. You get about as good a flop as you can reasonably expect for your hand, but your opponent bets just over the pot. Unless one of the other players comes along, you are getting only 2-1 on a 3-1 shot, IF your flush is good. Of course, if one of the other players comes along there is a good chance your flush draw is no good. So I think it is a clear fold here. I think if you want to continue in the hand, you must push all in. If he has AK or AQ you might get a fold. I would be reading him for an over pair here, with AK, AQ, or AJ possible.
Now you've called the flop, making the pot 1000. You've caught a card that probably gives you more outs and he pushes, which is in effect a 535 bet, since that is all you have left. So your choice is to call getting 3-1 odds or fold, damaged but not hopeless. To me his push further defines his hand as an overpair or AJ. I don't think he has a better flush draw, because he has been trying to deny you odds to chase the flush. If had the nut flush draw, I think he would bet smaller. In that case you have 14 outs (2 tens, 3 eights, 9 clubs), which makes you about 30% to make your hand. You are still not getting odds to call, though it's close. Fold and try to come back. |
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Re: Flush + pair on turn...your move
I'd fold this hand at least 3 times - Pre-flop, on the Flop, on the Turn and probably on the River.
Frankly, I can't imagine calling a raise with T8s on level 1 unless I'd already doubled up previously... |
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Re: Flush + pair on turn...your move
lol I love your reply (fold 3 times)
YES, I might've folded preflop...but I like suited connectors with a WADB YES, I SHOULD HAVE folded on the flop and turn, his bet was too big to call Villain ended up showing 2-3 for flopped 2 pair. I would've never guessed. Oh yea, and I hit my flush. |
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