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Do I call this river bet
20-40 full game. I have AdKd and raise in MP. All fold except button and BB. Button is a calling station who would go to the river with even 4th best pair or couple of over cards. BB is a good solid tricky player.
Flop - 5d6s2c. I bet both call. Turn - 7d. I bet both call. River - 5s. BB bets. Is it a simple call? There is $350 in the pot. I don't see how the river card helped the BB. I had both Ad and Kd so he coudnt be bluffing a missed flush draw. If he had any pair he would have just check called. Maybe A5. But then he probably would have tried check raise. Thanks for your comments. |
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Re: Do I call this river bet
this is not good--- but a call would be right
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Re: Do I call this river bet
I think it was in one of Lou Krieger's books where he tells a story about a lady that calls a bet on the river with k high or something and she wins. He asks her why she called and she says 'because i knew he had nothing". He goes on to say that if you think your opponent is bluffing you should always raise rather than just call. I don't practice this advice, nor do i even believe its good advice in most situations. This is one situation where, if your going to call, a raise could be a much stronger play to put pressure on the SB to fold a bad pair. It does look like a suspicious bet from the BB, so I wouldn't fold. I think a raise may be the play.
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I agree that raising is better than folding, but there are a lot of hands that could beat you. Cold calling a MP raise from the blinds could be any pair in the area of 88. But I think the busted draw could be more acurate
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Re: Do I call this river bet
If the BB is solid he's betting because he knows you'll check behind AK AQ and he wants value out of them.
However, if BB is solid he'll be doing this with a marginal hand that will probably not call a raise if you raise. It all depends on how you define solid. edit: this is a great place to have perfect shania on the river with your raises. |
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Re: Do I call this river bet
I agree with the gambler. Solid BB is not betting the river with no pair. If he was going to make a play on you he would have done it on the turn with a raise. He probably has some small pocket pair and wants to get paid off. My guess is that he put you on big cards and will probably call if you raise. Raising might throw him off though it really depends on his hand reading skills. I would fold and be done with it.
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Re: Do I call this river bet
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I would fold and be done with it. [/ QUOTE ] No way; I want to see this guy's cards. SpaceAce |
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Re: Do I call this river bet
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If he had any pair he would have just check called [/ QUOTE ] If I were in the BB shoes, this is exactly how I would play a 7 (or PP) on this board.... His river bet comes from nowhere and really puts pressure on you to call...I really doubt a raise will fold his hand...It probably forces him to think, but if he's going to bet into you, he's going to call a raise.... I would make a crying call just to verify my thought process.... |
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Re: Do I call this river bet
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No way; I want to see this guy's cards. SpaceAce [/ QUOTE ] Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt tttt (in best Joe Dirt voice) |
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Re: Do I call this river bet
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I agree with the gambler. Solid BB is not betting the river with no pair...He probably has some small pocket pair and wants to get paid off. My guess is that he put you on big cards and will probably call if you raise. [/ QUOTE ] Ditto...with what sort of no-pair hand could this "solid" BB have called preflop, flop, and turn against two players? |
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