Talk Trash On Big Stacks

[RPatterson]

This thread lets talk trash about people with big stacks that think it's a good strategy to call people's all-in's with hands like 98 suited because they have enough chips to do so.

Everyone who believes having alot of chips makes negative expected value situations turn into positive ones, this thread is for you.

As long as you can afford to double people up and play trash hands, you should keep doing it until you get back to medium stack status. Obvious strategy.

[jwvdcw]

a little bitter about a bad beat?

[RPatterson]

This isn't a thread about how we should take bad beats like bitches, this is a thread for raging against the man!

[jwvdcw]

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This isn't a thread about how we should take bad beats like bitches, this is a thread for raging against the man!

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[paland]

Are you sure it's not about going on tilt?

[Michael Davis]

Of course you shouldn't make a -EV play.

However, recognize that EV includes the benefits of knocking someone out of tournament, and that cash $$ EV is sometimes different than tournament chip EV.

-Michael

[Yarney]

Funny you should bring this up. I just got put out of a tournament by someone who called an all-in, and a second caller (me) with 5 7 suited. Of course the flop came down 4 6 8. That one came out of nowhere.

-Yarney

[PlayerA]

I think it depends on the situation. If I'm in the BB and the all-in has raised amount less than or slighty over a BB, then I will call with any 2 cards. Of course, it's usually a +EV call as the long as the all-in does not have an overpair.

[pzhon]

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Of course you shouldn't make a -EV play.

However, recognize that EV includes the benefits of knocking someone out of tournament, and that cash $$ EV is sometimes different than tournament chip EV.


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The value of knocking someone out of a tournament is usually negligible. The idea that it is valuable to knock someone out (before the final table) is a common fallacy that is even in the rec.gambling.poker FAQ, but there is no theoretical justification for it, and there are numerical and qualitative arguments against it.

If you try to knock someone out by making a bad EChip call, you bear 100% of the cost. The potential benefit is divided among all of the other players in the tournament. Your share is microscopic.

[Beavis68]

It doesnt make me made when they call me, I want those types of calls when I am the short stack.

What ticks me off, is when they double OTHER people up.