Will we ever have cardrooms in NYC?

[DOTTT]

I'm talking about the legal kind. It seems cardrooms have become legal in a lot of places, so why wont NYC let them open up here?

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I'm talking about the legal kind. It seems cardrooms have become legal in a lot of places, so why wont NYC let them open up here?

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Highly unlikely. The NY state constitution specifically prohibits gambling, and the "it's a skill game" argument has been tried before, unsuccessfully. Factor in the political and economic obstacles, and the chances of a legal cardroom in NYC or NY state opening up in the foreseeable future are virtually nil.

[Schmed]

wasn't there some talk recently about Bloomberg making a push for gaming in NYC??

What is the deal with the card clubs there. I saw a post with someone talking about a club they play at. How do you get in these places?? How legal/illegal are they?? Do cops roust these places?? Inquiring minds want to know.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[bdk3clash]

Here's the section of the New York State Constitution which deals with gambling:

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S 9. 1. No law shall be passed abridging the rights of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government, or any department thereof; nor shall any divorce be granted otherwise than by due judicial proceedings; except as hereinafter provided, no lottery or the sale of lottery tickets, pool-selling, book-making, or any other kind of gambling, except lotteries operated by the state and the sale of lottery tickets in connection therewith as may be authorized and prescribed by the legislature, the net proceeds of which shall be applied exclusively to or in aid or support of education in this state as the legislature may prescribe, and except pari-mutuel betting on horse races as may be prescribed by the legislature and from which the state shall derive a
reasonable revenue for the support of government, shall hereafter be authorized or allowed within this state; and the legislature shall pass appropriate laws to prevent offenses against any of the provisions of this section.

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New York State Constitution, Article 1, Section 9, Part 1

[bdk3clash]

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wasn't there some talk recently about Bloomberg making a push for gaming in NYC??

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They've actually recently opened slot-machine type parlors at the racetracks.

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What is the deal with the card clubs there. I saw a post with someone talking about a club they play at.

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They exist. Or so I've heard... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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How do you get in these places??

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Have a member vouch for you and take you to one.

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How legal/illegal are they?? Do cops roust these places?? Inquiring minds want to know.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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They are illegal. If/when a card room gets busted, the owners/managers/dealers will probably be arrested, in order of likelihood.

Players will be asked to show ID. If you don't have any outstanding warrants, you probably won't get hassled. You'll probably lose however the chips you had in front of you, but I guess that's possible anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Fmonti]

We suposedly live in a free country and it seems to me that if I want to play poker I shouldn't have to drive 2 hours one way to play. After all they have poker rooms in Calif. Why not other states? My brother is a golfer and can golf wherever he pleases with side bets etc...Thats how he enjoys his leisure time..I enjoy mine playing poker but shouldn't have to drive 4 hours a day to play...Just my feelings....

[mosch]

This country isn't really that free. Most americans can't legally smoke a bowl, place a bet, or get tied up and whipped while not playing the part of Jesus in a feature film.

It's not a bad country, but it's not now (nor was it ever) the utopia that so many think it is.

[StevieG]

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This country isn't really that free.

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It's free in a lot of meaningful ways, but there is definitely a lack of pragmatism with respect to vice.

It's ironic that we tolerate government paternalism in areas principally related to individual morality (gaming, prostitution, recreational drugs, alcohol, pornography) but largely fight against it in other areas (so we let developers dictate how land is used).

I'm not saying that the market should not dictate how we use land, but if we tolerate blue laws that interfere with the market (you can only sell your beer at these times) why do we so oppose planning (if you're going to build out there we need bike paths and money for mas transit)?