Tipping

[Mikey]

I'm not a cheap skate, but here goes.

I'm playing at the Borgota, or at the Taj, or Trop any of the fine Atlantic City casinos.

Ok so I drag in a pot, a pretty big one.

I'm raking up the chips and through the corner of my eye I see the dealer waiting with her mouth agape as if "I OWE HER" a tip. And believe me I know that the tip was exactly what she was looking for.

Situation 2.

I'm at the Taj, and again take down a nice sized pot, it was the final hand of that dealers shift. I'm stacking up the chips and as he's leaving the table he's saying to me, repeatedly, "nice hand man..... man nice hand" He stands up turns around, does almost a 360 and says, "nice hand again" as if NOW I should be like...... "ohh here you go nice dealer, thank you so much for dealing those beautiful cards to me and it was because of YOU that I won this hand."

Gimme a break man.

I find it that some dealers are real a$$HoL$$$$. They are waiting for you to tip them because you just won a big hand. Or even after a small one.

By the way, the guy that kept telling me, "nice hand nice hand nice hand" I didn't give him anything.

And the dealer who's mouth was open I didn't toke her either.

This also brings down my mood whether I'm up or down, because they are waiting for my toke. Now I have one other thing to think about in the back of my mind, and that is, "does this dealer hate me now?" or "boy this guy is greed?"

Now let me tell you a flip side to the story. I'm sitting in a game, and there is this dealer at the Trop and he is lighting fast, I mean he whizzes those cards in there, but he is never ever sloppy. Throughout his 30 minute stint I tipped him $3 and lost 2 big pots in that game and didn't win once. I tipped him because
1) he kept the game going.
2) he was polite
3) he got more hands dealt in than the other dealers.

At the Taj, a beautiful young girl this summer, was dealing, just as fast as the guy from the TAJ, she looked like a wizard the way she was dealing, and she kept that game flying, the table literally "woke up" Anyone engaged in conversation during their turn to act, she would bark at them. Perfect dealer I'm thinking. I toked her $5 well because......she was good. By the way I lost about 20 BB when she was dealing....those cards just weren't coming out right for me, but they were coming out fast. WHEW!!!

If anyone out here is thinking about becoming a dealer. Be efficient, don't chat with the players, keep the game moving, that means
1)more hands for me.
2)more money for the casino.
3)more money in the form of tokes for you.


I like to see a good dealer, not a dealer that deals me a lucky hand, or one that waits anxiously for a tip. If I see you want my money, and that greed is in your eye. I'm sorry (pal, gal) you're not getting it.

[JTG51]

I like to see a good dealer, not a dealer that deals me a lucky hand, or one that waits anxiously for a tip.

Do you know anyone that doesn't anxiously await getting paid for doing their job?

You do realize that dealers rely on tips to make a living, right? Have you ever worked for tips? I'm guessing not.

[daryn]

i totally hear what you're saying. i always tip at poker, but when i was recently in vegas, i was playing craps and i ended up turning $50 into something like $600.. a pretty good parlay job. anyways as i colored out and was walking away from the table, this one dealer was like .. "wow, way to go man.. the dealer's really saved you there.. really brought you back"..

wow! what nerve right? i glanced back from like 10 feet away and basically threw a couple $5 chips at him. i am in no way a cheap person but i just don't play A LOT of table games and i have never really won big enough to consider a tip. i just though the way the guy said it was very rude, but i guess how else would he have gotten my attention?

[daryn]

DISCLAIMER: i always leave great tips at restaurants, always tip almost every pot i win at poker, tip all the waitresses for drinks, etc......


that said, i don't buy into your argument that people working certain jobs rely on tips to make a living. of course a waitress relys on tips to make a living but panhandlers rely on spare change, and i don't give them money. my point is i tip because of the service, not because "i have to".

[slavic]

Mikey -

I doubt your hurting any dealer with this currently. Most of the places around here tipshare so if you overtip one and undertip another it doesn't change much.

[JTG51]

that said, i don't buy into your argument that people working certain jobs rely on tips to make a living.

So you think dealers and waitresses could make a living without tips?

[Homer]

This isn't entirely related to your post, but anyway...something I've started to do recently when I go out to eat is tip a fixed dollar amount per person at the table. Tipping a fixed percentage is kind of stupid if you think about it. Why should a waiter at a diner get a $4 tip (on a $20 bill) while a waiter at a nicer restaurant gets a $10 tip (on a $50 bill), especially when often the waiter at the diner is doing more for you.

[Homer]

No they can't, and I don't think daryn is arguing that they can. If you tip poor waitresses/dealers/whatever, they will eventually not be able to make enough to live and will have to find a different job or perform their job better. If instead you tip just because you are supposed to, the quality of service you receive in the long-run will be worse than it should be.

-- Homer

[JTG51]

I agree with everything that you said. I'm not saying you should tip dealers when they do a bad job. Unless I misread Mikey's post, his gripe with the dealers was that he could tell they wanted a tip, not that they were bad dealers. There's a big difference between wanting to get paid for doing your job and doing your job poorly, isn't there?

[JTG51]

I read your post too quickly the first time. After rereading it, I'm more confused.

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...i don't buy into your argument that people working certain jobs rely on tips to make a living.

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of course a waitress relys on tips to make a living...

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So which one is it?