20/40 AKo - I couldn't have been more passive

[Barry]

This hand is from my 1st 20/40 session that I played in at Foxwoods on Tues nite. I hated the way that I played this.

I'm in the BB with AKo

UTG+1 open raises, next guy 3-bets, I call 2 more

Flop is JTT, checked to 3 bettor, who bets, both of us call.

Turn is an A, I check (unbelievable, I know), UTG+1 bets, we both call (I know, I know)

River is another J, Final board AJJTT

Checked around.

Why I couldn't find a bet or a raise somewhere, I don't know.

Fire away....

[SpaceAce]

What could anyone possibly tell you that you don't already know? Your play was ridiculous [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

SpaceAce

[astroglide]

i think you played it fine.

preflop is worth a veil out of position.

flop is standard.

if you bet the turn you're still facing a preflop raiser and reraiser. unless you rate to get called by kk/qq or worse you'd rather have them betting.

the only spot i see a potential bet is the river, and it's razor thin given you will hate a raise.

i would have played it the same.

[Turning Stone Pro]

I don't see where you could have played it any differently,
other than folding after the flop.

Folding pre-flop is no good, nor is capping it.

Leading out on the flop and getting raised, which you surely would have, is foolish. Since the flop wasn't raised, you can call the flop bet.

I check and call the turn also. If it is bet and raised, you can fold knowing you are beat.

I check and crying call the river, also . . .

Sometimes, albeit rarely, checking and calling is proper . . . I think it is in this scenario.

Joe

What's the problem?

Did you win?

[Barry]

It's funny, I hated the way that I played it, but I couldn't think of any other way to do it at the time either.

Both of the other opponents showed AQ and my hand is good.

[Turning Stone Pro]

nice result.

one of those situations where it was very likely they had AQ or AK, based on the preflop and turn play . . . if you lead on the turn, one of them will probably raise to "find out where he is" and you have to fold the winner.

Joe

[Clarkmeister]

I think a big part of the reason you flat-call preflop is so you can checkraise turns like this.

[astroglide]

i could see betting, but not checkraising.

[Clarkmeister]

Betting is weak. It screams "please raise me so I can fold".

[SpaceAce]

Wow, I guess I am way in the minority. After it got checked all around, I would have bet because I don't think anyone who really made a big hand on that would have risked not getting another bet out of it ESPECIALLY after you checked and you both just called on the turn. No one who actually had a Jack or ten could be assured of getting to reraise opponents that behaved so passively on the turn.

I suppose someone could have had the ten and been afraid to bet it but I think you would have seen more action from a ten before the river.

OHHHHHHH... as I was writing this I realized that I misread your post. You were acting first. I thought you were acting last. I retract pretty much everything I said. With two people acting behind me, I would have checked, as well.

SpaceAce