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Old 12-12-2005, 03:05 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Huh? - Neutral EV

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t2945)
Hero (t1255)
Button (t3085)
SB (t715)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t300

This is surprisingly close to 0 EV. I guess once you consider blind stealing, pushing here is better than folding. Just an interesting review for me. No point.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:10 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default As opposed to this hand....

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t995)
Button (t3885)
SB (t355)
BB (t2765)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t800
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: Huh? - Neutral EV

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I guess once you consider blind stealing, pushing here is better than folding.

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I don't follow. Could you say this another way?
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:13 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Huh? - Neutral EV

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I guess once you consider blind stealing, pushing here is better than folding.

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I don't follow. Could you say this another way?

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I'm in the BB on the next hand.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:16 AM
Burno Burno is offline
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Default Re: Huh? - Neutral EV

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I guess once you consider blind stealing, pushing here is better than folding.

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I don't follow. Could you say this another way?

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I'm in the BB on the next hand.

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Roger.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:03 PM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Huh? - Neutral EV

yeah, let the SB do himself in.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:13 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Huh? - Neutral EV

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This is surprisingly close to 0 EV.

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you mean having the bb get a walk there is 0 EV for you? or folding = pushing in EV for you?
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:04 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: Huh? - Neutral EV

It's a good example of why you have to put your opponents on accurate calling ranges to get any useful info from SNGPT.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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Eh I push here 100% of the time unless the BB or button have like, been maniac callers.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:55 PM
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Being BB next hand is HUGE. SNGPT will not factor this in.
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