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Old 12-04-2005, 05:40 PM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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no reads that i recall. is this standard?
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6 BB
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: donk

i believe so
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: donk

Pretty much, The flop call is up to you... With no read you've got to wonder if you're drawing relatively dead to his 3X hand.

SB is likly to hold it if anyone [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

You've got 7k posts, I feel like im teaching a pro? Lol!
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: donk

That seems fine. I think raising the flop could also be good. SB could be stabbing with anything, and UTG usually just has overcards here.
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: donk

Hi POKhER,

Pretty much, The flop call is up to you... With no read you've got to wonder if you're drawing relatively dead to his 3X hand.

SB rarely has a 3 here.

Bob:

Either I take this line or raise the flop and re-evaluate on the turn. Pot is getting large and I'd like to maximize my chances to win it. Often, if I raise the flop I'll get a free showdown. Or my hand could be the best currently. Furthermore, I very likely still have 6 outs.

Best regards,

John
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:02 PM
POKhER POKhER is offline
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yeah i doubt him to have a 3, but if im calling the flop im calling the turn.

River is debateable(Obviously if i hit its easy) but missing, High card? Hmm.

If anyone SB has a 3 right?

Hmm never thought of raising the flop, Guess i don't like it lol.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:05 PM
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Raise the flop.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:08 PM
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i want to hit the raise button somewhere, is this bad? Either flop or turn it doesn't matter.
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: donk

Bob
Raising the flop is my standard play. You probably have the best hand. If you don't you have 6 outs most of the time, because I don't think he has a 3 here. So it's likely he has a small PP, or he has overcards, like you....

There is a good chance a flop raise will earn you a free showdown from his PP hands.

On the other hand, a turn raise will fold his no pair hands, and could fold some PPs as well, so I think that has merit.

I can't imagine folding here though because there are so many ways for you to take this pot from him.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: donk

I disagree with those who say Bob likely has the best hand on the flop. In my experience, sb has a pair here very often.

Headsup in position, I vary my play, sometimes just calling and sometimes raising. But when it is multiway, and one player has bet and the other has called, I am much less likely to raise.
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