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Old 07-03-2003, 02:12 AM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default 10-20 I played it like crap, but I don\'t care.

10-20 Mirage

Guy who could be raising with any 2 open raises in EP in this currently 7 handed game. Unknown "between the SB and button" poster calls, I call in the SB with Ad7d, Fishy straightforward BB calls.

Flop: [As Ac 6s] Poster checks, I am flinging my bet out and BB has 2 chips already in front of him. When informed that I hadn't acted and that I bet, he tried to raise, but the dealer wouldn't let him. Preflop raiser bails and poster calls. 3 to the turn for 5.5BBs.

Turn: [As Ac 6s] Qs. Poster checks, I bet, BB raises all in to $35, Poster makes it $55, I call $35 more in the $210 pot because...well...because I've got an ace dammit and I'm not folding. I fling my chips out and root for a queen.



I get an ace.



And suddenly I don't care how I played it poorly on every street against BB's 66 and SB's flush. And you know what...I still don't. I got 4 freaking aces. Ship it.
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Old 07-03-2003, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 I played it like crap, but I don\'t care.

clarkmeister,

I wouldn't care either. You are the one stacking the chips.

baseball38 [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 07-03-2003, 02:51 AM
Ed S. Ed S. is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 I played it like crap, but I don\'t care.

One thing I don't understand. You said, "I call in the SB with Ad7d", but you also said, " I played it poorly on every street against BB's 66 and SB's flush". I thought you were the SB??

You didn't play it poorly on every street. You could have checked-raised the flop but with this flop why would you? The turn bet is one that is questionable leaving you open to a checkraise or re-raise from somewhere. Which happend. The river, well you have the nuts how can you mess this up? So I don't think it is a bad as you think it is.


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Old 07-03-2003, 02:56 AM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 I played it like crap, but I don\'t care.

By SB in that sentence, I meant the poster. Sorry bout that. [img]/forums/images/icons/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 07-03-2003, 03:10 AM
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Default LOL!

"Ship it!" is right. Ev doesn't pay the bills - 4 Aces does.

Or better yet, tell them what I told my friend when he got it all in, in the last hand of a NL tourney with 56s against my 8-2 on the 874 flop - and I runnered home a boat. "I don't know what you got, but I have a full house! Ship it!"
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Old 07-03-2003, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 I played it like crap, but I don\'t care.

Clarkmeister, you really need a refresher course on what "playing like crap" is. Granted, you had to figure you were drawing to at best 3 outs (BB probably has the case ace), at worst 2 for a split pot. So you made a bad call. That's a 2 BB mistake. 3 if you count the initial turn bet. It's not a mistake that cost you an entire pot...

I've provided a good example of "playing like crap" below. It's from a post on the pot-/no-limit board from a couple weeks ago, by FMajcinek.


Ultimatebet, no-limit, .25-.50 blinds. $50 max buy-in.

I find A [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] in the BB. Happily, there are a 4 limpers, no raises. I pop my BB for 3.00. Two limpers fold, two others flat-call. (Both callers are weak/passive tend to call nearly ANY bet short of all-in once they have invested money in the pot, so I'm not terribly worried.)

Flop: 4 [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/forums/images/icons/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img]

With little or no read on my opponents I bet it out for 5.00 (just under half the pot) certain that a) If they don't have a nine or a four they will fold, b) if they do have a 9 or a four they will raise right there and let me release the hand and c) if they have an over-pair they will flat-call, thus giving me more than enough implied odds to draw.

So they both called.

Turn: 4 [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img]

Everybody checks.

River: 4 [img]/forums/images/icons/heart.gif[/img]

I double-check the board to make sure that I'm seeing quads. I double check my hole cards to make sure that I have the ace. I've never actually been in this situation before so I bet $5 again just to see what every body else does.

Well, the fellow on my left re-raised ALL-IN (about $45). The guy on the button folds, but SHOWS an AJ.

Now totally confused, I call the guy. He flips a QJ and I win a $100+ pot.

When I asked AJ why he folded he said:

"i think he trap me."

When I asked him to clarify that statement he said:

"i think he have a nine."

I didn't bother to tell him that quads-and-a-pair isn't a legitimate poker hand.

When I asked the guy why he bet EVERY CENT HE HAD ON THE TABLE with a QJ he said:

"I was making a move."

And also refused to clarify.

I had to sit out the next ten hands I was laughing so hard.
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Old 07-03-2003, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 I played it like crap, but I don\'t care.

Clark, you played it like CRAP! [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Tell me you got at least one call on the river and it'll make my day. Hope the action is good for you guys this weekend.

Ni han.

Leon
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Old 07-03-2003, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 I played it like crap, but I don\'t care.

Rusty, you cant fold show while there is still action pending.


Clarkmeister, do you usually call early position raises with Axs? Or was this an unusual situation?
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Old 07-03-2003, 07:53 AM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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Default Nice catch Terrell Owens !!!

Ni Han Sir [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-03-2003, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 I played it like crap, but I don\'t care.

That's quite a bit of "fling fling" you got goin' on there.
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