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Old 11-22-2005, 02:42 PM
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Default A 6max hand at 2/4.

Haven't posted a hand in a while. Absolute 2/4 6max, home of the true donkey donks.

Complete and utter maniac open raises UTG. This means that he is holding two cards. Folded to me on the button where I duely 3-bet holding the massive ATo. The sb folds and the calling station BB cold calls the 3-bet as does our maniac friend. His not capping means that he probably doesn't have a hand in the top 50% range.

Flop comes 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to me, so I of course bet. Call, call.

The turn comes off with a lovely Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Check, check, and I check.

The River is the T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] giving me a pair. Oh goodie. The BB checks, maniac bets, I call and the calling station overcalls, since that is what calling stations do.

Like it, or hate it? Why?
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

The river is a decision between call and raise. Given your opponent is a calling station and thus will not fold a jack or a queen to two bets on the river this is a call, but if your opponent (not the maniac) was a thinking tag, this is a great spot for a river raise to fold a better hand.

Regardless... played perfectly.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

PF: Solid
Flop: Yea
Turn: Great
River: At first it seemed like one of those situations where you dont want overcalls, so I was thinking raise and hope the BB folds a J or something. But considering his station-status, hes not folding anything you beat and I'm gonna wanna showdown any reasonable pair against a maniac so I like it...
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

I agree with all streets.

Preflop and flop are obviously standard.

The turn is interesting. Remove the maniac leaving just the calling station, and I'm betting this. Remove the calling station and I think this is an easy check-behind as a bluff-inducer. The fact that you have two opponents and may very well still hold the best hand makes it interesting, but the risk of the maniac pushing you off the best hand if you bet is too great here, so I'm fine with the check.

It's tempting to stick a raise in on the river, but that play never seems to work for me when I try it. Obviously I hate the three royal flush cards on the board, but I think you need to try to get this to showdown against the maniac after you showed weakness on the turn, so calling seems fine.

Interesting hand on the last two streets. I'd feel much more confident in this line if the calling station were not involved. I can't begin to count the number of times I've had a maniac beaten only to lose to some [censored] limper who didn't notice that I 3-bet preflop.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

[ QUOTE ]
PF: Solid
Flop: Yea
Turn: Great
River: At first it seemed like one of those situations where you dont want overcalls, so I was thinking raise and hope the BB folds a J or something. But considering his station-status, hes not folding anything you beat and I'm gonna wanna showdown any reasonable pair against a maniac so I like it...

[/ QUOTE ]

I was thinking of raising the river if I didn't hit.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

Like it, other posters said why.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

Interesting...on a more ragged board I might like it, but I think there are too many cards that are "In The Zone" for this to be successful
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

I think you played it well, but I would not bluff raise the river if you miss.
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

I like it.
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: A 6max hand at 2/4.

I'm almost thinking that I don't like it. I would rather have raised the river to try to push out the SB. While he may still call with a J or Q facing 2 bets would at least give you the chance of pushing him out especially if he can recognize that there are 3 to a straight and flush on board. I think that the pot is big enough that you have to call maniac's bet but I think this is a case where investing an extra bet can save you the pot.
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