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Old 11-13-2005, 04:23 AM
The Truth The Truth is offline
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Default Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

200-400 3 handed at full tilt.

Phil Ivey has Q5o in sb.

button limps, phil calls, bb checks.

Flop: Qd 2s 6d
Phil bets, bb folds, button calls.

Turn: 8d
phil bets, button calls.

river: 4d

phil checks....

what ya think?

blake
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

Looks fine. Betting here wouldn't really have any value.
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

When I make this play it's agianst a LAG who will raise with any 2 or bet any 2 when checked to.

I'm guessing at this level we're not eliciting many bluffs from trash, but I think I'd be a little concerned by a light raise.

Granted I have no idea the texture of the UB 2/4 game~
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Old 11-13-2005, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

lol ya, the ~2/4 game.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

I think top pair with no kicker or a good mid pair are often exceptions to the clarkmeister rule.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

I guess he check folded the river?
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

a bet doesnt serve much purpose and at this level youll be bluffraised a decent percentage of time on the river if youre a clark guy.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

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I guess he check folded the river?

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I assumed he was calling, but on a second look its close. I still guess call though.
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

This seems to be a pretty easy call if bet to but I suppose it's read dependant
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Phil Ivey and the Clark rule

I've used this line @ 3/6 a couple of times. People indescriminatly use the clark rule all the time and I think its a mistake. The clarkrule assumes that your opponent will not bluff often enough to make check calling effective. I've found times playing @ 3/6 where I've checked tp on a 4 flush board and picked off a bluff on the river. Its not a play I'll use all the time but one that has its effectiveness. Phil Ivey's thinking is prolly along this line. He's got TPWK, his opponent is prolly capable of bluff raising as well as blulffing in this spot. He will prolly check call rather than bet and being forced to fold to a raise.
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