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SippinSoma · #1 11-12-2005, 02:28 PM

Villain is an ABC 20/10 TAG over several hundred hands.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 caps, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (20.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (16.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero folds...

Evan · #2 11-12-2005, 02:37 PM

I'd call rather than 3 bet the flop. Given the way you played it, the turn fold is okay.

Eurotrash · #3 11-12-2005, 02:39 PM

with the given action vs. this particular opponent you're drawing to 2 outs about 99.99% of the time here. i think your fold is just fine.

SippinSoma · #4 11-12-2005, 02:41 PM

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I'd call rather than 3 bet the flop. Given the way you played it, the turn fold is okay.

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So you call. Turn comes a brick. BB checks and Villain bets. Are you folding?

Eurotrash · #5 11-12-2005, 02:46 PM

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I'd call rather than 3 bet the flop. Given the way you played it, the turn fold is okay.

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So you call. Turn comes a brick. BB checks and Villain bets. Are you folding?

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eh, this is why I like the line you took better.

TomBrooks · #6 11-12-2005, 03:30 PM

NH. I have to put utg on AA or KK, and possibly JJ. The only other hand I could put him on would be QQ, but that seems like too much of a long shot given you have QQ and it would only result in a chop anyway.

TomBrooks · #7 11-12-2005, 03:35 PM

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I'd call rather than 3 bet the flop. Given the way you played it, the turn fold is okay.

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Evan,

If you want to take this to showdown unless SB and UTG get into a raising war, then calling the flop looks better to me too. But three betting the flop helped define UTG's holding in this hand.

The odds are good enough to call a flop cap for a two outer, so could it have been better to three bet for that reason? I'm not sure because there is a danger that UTG could then stop and go by just calling the flop three bet which would tend to trap us on the turn and river.

bobhalford · #8 11-12-2005, 04:12 PM

nice hand. The flop raising defines villains hand, which is obviously better than yours.