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Old 11-08-2005, 07:17 PM
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Default Good semi-bluff spot?

Original raise was 2$ (miniraise) and everyone was calling so I had huge implied odds if I hit a straight/flush/2pr etc.
Then another raises comes around and EVERYBODY calls. I know it was 8$ more to me but pot odds and implied odds were unquestionable. Unless I flopped a nut draw/2pr/trips / some other monster I would just fold the flop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($148)
UTG ($26.89)
MP ($93.80)
CO ($18.50)
Button ($93)
Hero ($310.08)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9h, Jh. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, Hero (poster) calls $1.50, BB raises to $9, UTG calls $9, MP calls $8, Button calls $8, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($50) Th, Qc, 5s (5 players)
Hero bets $40, BB raises to $80

Opponents are fairly loose so I expect some action
should I have:

a) bet smaller
b) checked and hoped for small bet with lots of callers so i had odds to call

or

c) bet 40 like I did

in retrospect, my 40$ bet, although only 2/3 pot is huge for my opponents. they would either raise all in or fold to that.

so was it bad move?
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

why were you in this hand with 2 preflop raises, a pretty bad hand, and youre OOP?
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

good or bad?
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

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good or bad?

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in my opinion you never should've been in the hand and are probably setting yourself up to lose a sizeable pot.
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

47:7 odds doesn't justify a call here? 6.7:1
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:42 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

This is a clear call preflop, it was a min-raise and he was in SB.
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

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This is a clear call preflop, it was a min-raise and he was in SB.

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raising to 9 is a minraise?
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

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47:7 odds doesn't justify a call here? 6.7:1

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not OOP and with a hand that makes a ton of second best hands
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

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This is a clear call preflop, it was a min-raise and he was in SB.

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raising to 9 is a minraise?

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ops, just saw the first raise, but I think with that many players in a call for the additional 7 is OK.
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Good semi-bluff spot?

I think you're missing a lot of value if you lay it down preflop. J9s plays remarkably well/easily here, although I will almost never lead the flop.
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