Rivered 2 pair makes a flush, my play? PR 1/2

[pokerdirty]

Texas Hold'em $1-$2 (real money), #1,450,571,149
Table Bakhtaran, 8 Nov 2005 11:25 AM ET

Seat 1: SB ($42.60 in chips)
Seat 2: BB ($30.55 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG ($21.80 in chips)
Seat 4: UTG+1 ($12.75 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG+2 ($72.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero [K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($48.10 in chips)
Seat 7: MP1($47 in chips)
Seat 8: MP2($138.30 in chips)
Seat 9: CO ($19.80 in chips)
Seat 10: Button($47.20 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($0.50), BB posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, Hero calls $1, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls $1, SB folds, BB checks.

FLOP [board cards 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $1, Button calls $1, BB folds, UTG+2 folds.

TURN [board cards 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Hero bets $2, Button calls $2.

RIVER [board cards K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Hero...?

I feel like this is a basic check/call, but I'm just starting to play limit, and I'm trying to make sure.

[car ramrod]

bets

I think this is a pretty easy bet/call. I think you're gonna be shown a weaker jack or other pair more often then a flush draw. Have to call a raise b/c maybe he's raising a worse two pair or bluffing the flush card.

[cold_cash]

Without a read on the Button I would bet and call.

[Sightless]

I believe this is Bet/call you have top two pair, and he might have been calling you down with variety of hands, flush draw just being one remote possibility. You got to bet here....

[imported_The Vibesman]

I'd raise preflop and bet the river. Probably calling a raise hoping to see AK, KQ or a split w/ KJ, but I'm hating the raise if it happens.

[pokerdirty]

can anyone explain why i need to bet pf here? and why i raise the river? nothing too schmancy.

[midwestkc]

*grunch*

I'd check call...this was played just like a flush draw, IMO. I think we got sucked out on. I can see the bet/call play, but would like to save my $2. The problem is that you just improved to 2 pair. I think a fair amount of the time you are against a lower pair, but not enough to lead out.

[cold_cash]

With KJ you'd kinda like to thin the herd a bit, if that's possible.

And I wouldn't raise the river, but I would bet it. The Button is probably a typical opponent, which means he's too loose and calls too much. Like tehox said, he could have a whole bunch of stuff.

If you knew him to be tight, the river play might be different.

[numeri]

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can anyone explain why i need to bet pf here? and why i raise the river? nothing too schmancy.

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You don't need to raise preflop. EDIT: Misread the board - we can raise to isolate UTG+2 with a hand that is probably best. It depends on the player a lot, though.

You need to be the river, because a typical player will only bet a better hand (the flush) if you check, but will call with a lot of worse hands if you bet.

Lots of hands that you beat will call your bet, and some may even raise - which is why you should call. (Something like K7, KJ, or even the rare bluff raise.)

Value-betting on the river is a tough skill to learn.